Ingen verklig demokrati i Sverige.

[hotpost]

Ingen verklig demokrati råder i Sverige.
Om man inte är en sosse förstås.
Då har att man rätt tycka.
Andra mobbas på många olika sätt.
Hur blir vi av med alla sossar, i vårt land ?

No real democracy exist in Sweden.
Unless U R a "social democrat" - "sosse".
Then U can say what U want.
How do we get of all "sossar" in our country?

[bosse_s]

Care to explain a bit better what you mean? Are you being bullied by Social democrates? Why can't you say what you want, and in what sense do you think it benefits democracy to get rid of them?

Or are you just tired of the Social democrates winning the election year after year after year...? Is that what you mean with a threat to democracy, that there is seldom changes in power?

You can talk to me, Hotshot. I am not a social democrat.

[Summerian]

There's no real democratic party in sweden.
Göran Person said that the 4% needed to get in to riksdagen should be raised to 5%. Why? Because to many partys are causing disruptions and such. BS He's just power mad.
He loved the idea of an EU president, and that's because he can see himself in that possition.
Today with modern technoligy we can close in on the gap between representative democrasy and real democrasy. But take a guess what our beloved leader think of the idea of a real democrasy. How can we get real power over our own lifes when the people we elect to give us that power undermind their own power doing so?
I bet that none of the other partys have a plan or even thought about how to create a true democrasy, or even know what one looks like.
There was a pole that showed that a majoraty of the people didn't want to have to go to the poles more often.
So what?
Should we get rid of representative democrasy because some people don't wote at all?
Let those who want to take part in a real democrasy do so. Funk the rest. They don't want to play? Good, more power to me then. A pole that shows that some people are afraid of taking responibility for their own life isn't enough to take away the rights of those who want to do so.

[hotpost]

1. "Sossarna". employ their own, for one !
a) which lead to corruption
b) incompetence/incompetency
c) no freedom of speech at work....

(more to come)

[bosse_s]

I don't follow you at all, hotpost. Do you have a personal vendetta with mr Persson? Have you been sacked from SSU, or what is wrong?

What do you mean with "they employ their own" - you mean that they should employ Moderater to their party organisation?!

[hotpost]

Dear bosse_no brain_(s)......

(S)politicians - se to that their own s-friends
or other supporters, get (all important) jobs.
Especially public...

U need more brains to be part of this conversation

[bosse_s]

Ok, hotshot. If you don't want to talk, then Ok. I can't do much about that.

But if you are just going to insult me (who you don't know), then you might as well move to another board or perhaps grow up a bit and then come back and start communicating instead of just throwing bs at people.

Or why don't you lead the way, show us where YOUR brains are


[Edited by bosse_s on 14th December 2002 at 16:16]

[thule]

Aggressive little sucker, huh, Bosse?

I don't like the way the Social democratic party has done things either, in fact I think that's true of all the parties currently in parliament.

Though there is one thing the Social democrats could do that would raise their stock considerably in my eyes, and that is to shoot that b*tch Mona Sahlin and feed her remains to the pigs.


/Alex

[bosse_s]

I think he's a member of MUF, those with no better thing to do than to complain...

I consider it an bit weird that basically one party has ruled over the past 70 years... and that with various coalitions with really small parties.

But not to call it democracy is stupid, the Social democrates are obviously the largest party and what most of the people vote for (like it or not).

Sure, we can complain about that, or the fact that people voted for EU or whatever or that people rather watch "Popstars" than "Fråga Lund" or other things that might be unpopular to some. But it is not a question of democracy, is it?

[thule]

I suppose you're right, Bosse.

But I can't help wonder regarding the upcoming EMU vote next year, if the people votes 'no'. Will there be a new vote six months after that like it happened in Ireland with some EU related thing? Is it democracy if they will make election after election until they get the result they want. If the people vote 'yes', will there be a new vote after that.


/Alex

[bosse_s]

Now, that is a real problem. I guess we can vote about it, but I doubt that a NO will be accepted!

But if we look back at the topic of this thread, I still can't understand mr hotshots complaint. Is he jelaous of the dorks who are kissing the asses of politicans?

[hotpost]

2. "Sossarna” supress certain ideas/meanings and true opinion, that do not fit them !
a. If U do not agree with their ”ideals”, U R,
or will probably be, a target of their machinery
of suppression. Many of their ovn, doesn´t like, or
is heavily displeased with this unbeleably huge
emigration rate, into OUR country, just like us.
These and all we other, R then called rasists, (by
them, used as a bad or immoral adjective) to, as I
said, suppress, subdue and crush this, deep existing,
fundamental and true opinion.
b. Unless U don´t vote along with the ”sosses”, or
shall/can we call them sossasses, “we” take the vote
until, “it becomes right” – EURO, as U here said,
yourselves !!
c. Fill in your own.................exquisite ideas.....

(more to come)
– the calibre of parasitism
and y not, we will never, have a new gow.
until this, our country, doesn´t exist any more.
........from the "Aggressive little sucker"

[thule]

I don't like the Socialdemocratic party. Nor do I like massimmigration to this country. I believe multiculturalism will only lead to an even bigger disaster than it already has. Me and Bosse_S have debated this many times before.

But you, hotpost, seem to have very little interest in actually arguing anything. Bosse tried to get you to clarify what it ís you mean, and all you did was insult him. So do you want to actually debate the issue, or you just spew your opinions, followed by a lot of insults?


/Alex

[Nolvinge]

Hi folks

I am not in Sweden (especially not in the North in winter) but I am rather interested by one comment Thule made. You said that multiculturalism will lead to a bigger disaster than it already has. In what way has it been a disaster and how can it lead to a bigger disaster ?

The reason I ask is because Sverige has been hailed as the model of a country good with its immigration policies. Especially the education rights of immigrants.

Sorry to bother, am interested I guess.

[thule]

No bother, Nolvinge. If you don't ask, how can you learn.

To put it simply, first of all I don't think there is a chance for an ethnic minority to truly ever prosper in a country dominated by a different ethnic majority. There is already a lot of friction, crime, racism (on both sides) and you don't have to be Einstein to see that there is an obvious lack of will to integrate in all the different groups in this country.

I believe that since it is normal for people of any group to want to hold on to their cultural and national identity, in the end the country will collapse or just wither away from the enormous pressure of all the different interests of the various ethnic groups. And the more immigrants we let in, the worse it will get.


/Alex