PRIDE

[bosse_s]

Since there ain't much happening in this topic, I thought I might be the one to tell you (the world) that the PRIDE festival was held in Stockholm last w/e. I wasn't there since I was arranging a (straight) wedding for a friend. However, it was a big party with a lot of people etc.

Some skinheads joined as well, throwing bottles at the parade marching through the city. Duh, they must've been really upset, 'cause they even beat one guy up real bad. Apart from this interference by Stockholms proud neanderthalians, the festival was a success.

[thule]

Originally posted by bosse_s
Some skinheads joined as well, throwing bottles at the parade marching through the city. Duh, they must've been really upset, 'cause they even beat one guy up real bad. Apart from this interference by Stockholms proud neanderthalians, the festival was a success.

Dude, you've been misinformed.

While I don't think that NDU should have been there. Things didn't happen the way the media originally reported it.

http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/n....asp?dokID=146
(Picture proof).

http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/n...p?notisID=1717

http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/n...p?notisID=1722


/Alex

[bosse_s]

Thanks for the correction, Alex. I did believe the media version, until now.

ND wanted to make a statement (what statement one wonders...) during the PRIDE festival, but did not expect left-wing activits (and "homo-activists" as they call them) to show up? Not very smart to demonstrate, if you consider the fact that the anarchists et al are really keen on confrontating the right wing if they get a chance. Those *******s ain't doing much else than fighting and destroying public property it seems, so I don't give much for whatever struggle they are fighting ("duh, free social care and pot for everyone... and yeah we want to reclaim the streets from like... uh, cars and things?)

I bought the bait, but I honestly and genuinely care more about are the ordinary people (including the beat up guy in the parade), citizens and tourists of our beutiful city, that got cought in the middle of the two gangs of morons than I do about a bunch of ND-guys demonstrating against people's freedom to have their own love and sexuality.

Göteborg comes to mind..those people got more free-time than I have, for krissakes..

[thule]

I agree. Like I said in another thread I think ND has better things to do than what they did during the Pride festival. Those leftists/AFA morons do nothing but get into fights. They claim to have a political agenda but all they seem to do is try to stop others from executing theirs. If you really want to see what kind of idiots they are just check the forum at http://www.socialism.nu

And if you want to see one of the worst examples ever of Media's lies and racism, check this out: http://www.mediekritik.nu/?636


/Alex

[bosse_s]

Media has its own agenda, I don't trust them to report more "fairly" when it comes to other issues either.
But I know that the reporting about immigrants and such upsets you especially.

But in line of creating stories that sells papers, the phenomena of twisting the truth can be found in almost all the news reporting (at least in the evening papers)

(ND is doing their hard job of finding the "truth" being immigrant stories, but they might have missed this one)

Let me give you an example of the same problem, but different perspective:

This guy, a former druguser (A – an immigrant), goes with a friend (B –Swede) who’s also a former druggie to an Asian country on vacation. B’s girlfriend is also there on the trip. The choice of ”resort”, a not so touristy mountain nation famous for producing opium, might make anyone a bit suspicious – but try to read the following out of a ”juridicial” context, the only thing that matters are really what can be proven in a court of law.

After checking in for their flight back to Sweden, the customs stop (B) and start frisking him. In a hidden space in his clothes, they found a package of some illegal drug. It was a quite fair amount of drugs, by the way.
(B) takes full responsibility, claims that neither his girlfriend or (A) has anything to do with this. The police picks up (B), while (A) and the girl flies to Sweden.

In this Asian nation, handeling illegal drugs may give you some 18 month to 20+ years in prision. The police is well known to use torture as a method of interrogating people, and the courts are well known (by UNHCR) to set lower sentences for people who are ”cooperating” and admit their crimes.

Back in Sweden, the police are informed about the incident –and they go to the airport to meet up with (A) and the girl on the return. The police take them in suspected for ”planning” a serious crime (eventhough it was never committed since the police in Asia disovered the drugs) of bringing in drugs to Sweden.

An investigation starts, and the police found it interesting that two druggies and a woman would go to this exotic Asian nation on holiday. Meanwhile, back in Asia, (B) have decided to "tell the truth": He now claims, that it was (A) who planned it all, and that (A) forced him to take the drugs through the customs. (B) gets sentenced to 8 month (less than the actual penalty code instruction says) in prison in the Asian nation, but is released earlier due to ”good behaviour”.

Meanwhile in Sweden, the charges are changed for (A), he is now suspected for being the one who planned and made the attempt to smuggle the drugs to Sweden. The major ”proof” of this, is the confession from (B), made in the Asian prison. No other evidence of significance was introduced, apart from speculations and the fact that (A) was a former druggie who had been known for smuggeling and he was also smarter than (B) (B could impossible had constructed such a bright and evil plan on his own).

To make a long story short, I can tell you that (B) was back in Sweden even before (A) had his sentence declared: 7 years of prison. The girlfriend of (B) got something like 6 month in prison.

Ok, so much about that – but here comes the media twist: Expressen writes a story about (B) while in Asian prison – which went something like this:

”Man tricked to smuggle drugs to get money for his handicapped son. The Swedish family father was promised money if he would help smuggle drugs. ´I didn’t know it was this illegal´the man explains from his small and dirty cell. ´I thought he was my friend, look what he has done to me and my son. All I wanted was to help my poor son´.

Poor Swede and his handicapped son gets tricked by evil druggie (who happened to be immigrant, but I haven't considered that significant until now, really). Immigrant gets seven years for a crime that his friend got caught for. And the media writes about the poor Swede (who did get caught with the drugs) who actually got away pretty nice compared to both his friend and his own girlfriend.

Now, that would have been something for ND to shout about, if (B) would have been the immigrant.

Media is a joke, Alex. No matter if we are talking immigrants or Swedes. All forms of bias should be fought. Would ND make an issue about this, on behalf of the immigrant?

[thule]

Originally posted by bosse_s
Media is a joke, Alex. No matter if we are talking immigrants or Swedes.

I hear you. If a nuclear war started Aftonbladet would still put "Så vill svenska kvinnor ha sex" on the front page.

But I think in the example you posted Expressen saw a chance to make a "snyfthistoria" using only one side of whole story. It's just as contemptable, i'm not gonna argue that. But in the case I linked to it later turned out that it wasn't a racist crime at all. In fact the culprits weren't even swedes. So Aftonbladet's reporter Pelle Tagesson deliberately lied. He didn't twist the facts he flat out changed them.


/Alex

[thule]

Originally posted by bosse_s
All forms of bias should be fought. Would ND make an issue about this, on behalf of the immigrant?

I honestly don't know. Maybe they would take any chance they could to give the media in this country a bloody nose, or they might feel that if the immigrant had been singled out simply because he is an immigrant there are plenty of other activists willing to fight for him.


/Alex

[bosse_s]

Yeah, well anyway I read on the headlines that one of the guests at Allsång på Skansen got emergency aid last week. (She got stung by a bee, and a doctor cleaned the wound) and that "Big-brother Linda has (received questions about) sex with other women"

[thule]

What I really hate is that it seems to be no accountability for the media in Sweden. They get away with just about everything. There are many "journalists" that should have lost their jobs because of the crap they have written.


/Alex

Off topic but..am I the only one here that doesnt care if some I-got-famous-by-a-moronic-reality-tv-show-because-I-am-desperate-for-attention-and-got-really-weird-boobs-bimbo exists? Let alone her sexual habits? Sorry. Keep on with the discussion.

[thule]

Originally posted by lonely_swede
Off topic but..am I the only one here that doesnt care if some I-got-famous-by-a-moronic-reality-tv-show-because-I-am-desperate-for-attention-and-got-really-weird-boobs-bimbo exists? Let alone her sexual habits? Sorry. Keep on with the discussion.

That's swedish media for you. Have sex on national TV - get famous. Condemn her for what she did at one moment and praise her the next.


/Alex

[Summerian]

Nazis bash homos.
Homos fault for being there. (!)
Thule is a nazi xxx.
The party he spames sweden.com with everytime he posts is a nazi party.
No doubt.
Can the good people here say when?
If so, when?
Do these people have to kill someone before you wake up?
Once again, Thules party isn't viewed as a serious party by any party sept for other nazis.
Ban Thule, now!

[bosse_s]

Yeah, Lonely. You are the only one who don't care. That poor girl is a victim, don't you see that. Look, okey she do give evidence to the fact that that the "blond Swedish bimbo" is not all a myth when she gets drunk on Big Brother and ****s in national televison. But hey, her kids actually watched that, and isn't it a shame that tv actually broadcasted when she got loaded and started forcefeeding the men with her plastic boobs? I mean, the woman have children - how could they do that to her!?

Now, I did cry a tear of symphaty for this lady. After all, getting drunk and getting laid is not something you choose to do. She was a victim of several things... like, uh...

Now, as the PRIDE festival tuned out, I think it was a nice gesture of the media to pick up her experience of getting sexually harassed by females. "Big Brother Linda inspires women to have sex with eachother", isn't a nice way to show that she wasn't a dick-centrated bimbo after all?

Why should we not care, Lonely?

[thule]

Originally posted by Summerian
Nazis bash homos.
Homos fault for being there. (!)
Thule is a nazi xxx.
The party he spames sweden.com with everytime he posts is a nazi party.
No doubt.
Can the good people here say when?
If so, when?
Do these people have to kill someone before you wake up?
Once again, Thules party isn't viewed as a serious party by any party sept for other nazis.
Ban Thule, now!

Oh look. It's Summerian the little fascist b*tch! *LOL*

I take it you've had no look finding a donor for your brain transplant. You really remind me of those as*holes that hangs around on http://www.socialism.nu Anyone who doesn't agree with them is either a nazi or a fascist. Does that Sound familiar, Summerian? You are such a pathetic little sh*t. You should read a book about national socialism, maybe then you'll know what it is you're talking about.

JÄVLA FJORTIS!!!!

Here's some more "spame" [sic] for you: http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/ http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/ http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/ http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/ http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/ http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/ http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/ http://www.nationaldemokraterna.se/


Ha ha ha!

And just out of curiosity, Summerian. If you label ND as "nazi", how the hell would you label NS Front, which is an openly national socialist party and has a very different agenda from ND???

Could it be - as I suspect - that you're simply too damn stupid to know the difference.


/Adolf "Thule" Hitler

PS: Niquie. If Summerian's post is a violation of the following rule(s)
Transmit any message, information, data, text, or other materials ("Content") that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, that may be invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
Will you please ban the little boy?

[Edited by thule on 6th August 2003 at 18:01]