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[imported_GardenCity]

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[TZT]

Paul AKA Garden City,

I did not mean I was being spun off by people. I ment loosing my post and haveing to start typing all over again. Perhaps we are in the two countries seperatated by a common language. This internet just blows my mind. I'm exchanging ideas with people on several different contents It would certanly be boring if we agreed on everything.

Paul,

Do you think Australia is more like the UK or the USA regarding linguistics?

Watchmanz,

I ask you the same thing about New Zeland.

Bringing this back to religion I know the word love in either the Greak, Hebru, or is it Latin actually has four different types of love each with its own word. So the Bible does lose some meaning if you do not have some knowlege of the organal language.



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[imported_GardenCity]

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[imported_watchmanz]

Yes, I agree that New Zealanders are more like the English than the Americans. However, I also have to qualify that as New Zealanders are vastly different from each other - in the same way as a farmer from Alabama is different to a cop in Los Angeles! Aucklanders are very American-like, although our speech is still mostly UK-orintated. There are a lot of Americanisms in Aucklanders attitudes and behaviours and that sometimes puts us offside with our fellow NZ'ers from elsewhere. So I'm afraid there are only general answers thatcan be given and even they must be qualified. Sorry I can't gve a definite opinion here but, if I did, it would be wrong and I might end up arguing against myself in the future :-)

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[KATNZ]

How are Aucklanders more american like? I am Auckland born and bred and can't really see it. Unless you are talking importance placed on fashion etc? Granted I grew up in the West of Auckland which is a bit more easy going, but spent the majority of my school years in centre of Auckland. Or are you talking about the "snobby" attitudes Aucklanders are supposed to have?

Kath

[TZT]

Grarden City AKA Paul,

I thought you initalliy found MLMonline from this site because you are from or in New Zealand.

All,

This internet always amazes me how we can communicate to people all over the world. We have had phones for a long time now but that was one on one with people you already knew. This internet is meeting E-friends that you would have probably never interacted with and probably never would have met.

Anyway, I've always liked discussing religion and arguing points of view. When I brought up taxes at www.mlmonline.com or is it www.onlinemlm.com people got very upset and rude telling me it was not approprate.

For the most part this forum has been much more civil. Make that this forum has been more civil.

I advocated a mamimum income. This was deemed quite unamerican but I have found out that one presidential candate going against Ralph Nater(SP?) had advocated the same thing only with a much lower threashold than myself.

Anyway, here is a story of linguistic differences from two towns 20 miles apart in Colorado.

I attended school in one town but attended church in another as I lived on a farm inbetween the two towns. When some members of my church group learned I was from windsor they started asking if I knew so and so. I responded yes she is going out with so and so. Another youth from my home town also attended the same church as me. He confirmed that so and so was going out with so and so as there was some disbelief.

Eventually we learned that in Fort Collens when you say someone is going out that they are having sex. But in Windsor if you said that someone was going out it ment that there was no exclusive commitment and that you were free to go out with other people. Also in Windsor to say that you were just going out tended to mean that you had not had sex, or were not having sex with that person.

Watchman,

I do want to reliterate that I respect your rights to have your beliefs. I dislike having views pushed on me as in the sensitivity class I had to attend for work. The PC movement has dictated that we have to say things which are imoral are okay. People should have the rights to engage in imoral activity as long as the rest of us have the right to say that it is wrong.



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[TZT]

Garden City,

You caught me in a moment of inperfection. I did know you were from New Zealand but for some reaason was thinking you were from Australia at the time of your post.

Anyway your tag "Garden City" always reminds me of "Garden City" in Colorado. One town was "dry" in that alchol was illegal. Some people founded a town called Garden City and set up bars right next to the "dry" town. The town is still a bunch of bars and a post office eventhough alchol is now allowed in Greeley Colorado.

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[TZT]

Garden City,

You caught me in a moment of inperfection. I did know you were from New Zealand but for some reaason was thinking you were from Australia at the time of your post.

Anyway your tag "Garden City" always reminds me of "Garden City" in Colorado. One town was "dry" in that alchol was illegal. Some people founded a town called Garden City and set up bars right next to the "dry" town. The town is still a bunch of bars and a post office eventhough alchol is now allowed in Greeley Colorado.

I hope this does not double post as I went to the politic section and mypost was not posted. I back tracked and found this in my computer and will resubmit.

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[KATNZ]

It double posted

[imported_GardenCity]

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[imported_GardenCity]

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[TZT]

Garden City,

Greeley and Garden City are right next to each other. Not sure Garden City is even a town except for in zip code. The sherif never acepted it as a town. The bar was burned to the ground. Do not know how much is true about those stories as most were before I was born. Eventually Greeley allowed alchol to be served in town because they wanted a hotel chain to come in and the chain would not put up a hotel in a dry town. I think alchol became legal in Greeley city limits in 1969.

The war on alcohol continues in the College dorms. When I went to college the legal age was 18 for beer and sometime there were kegs in some of the dorms. Not allowed but the policy against such activity was enforced selectively. But now the legal age is 21 people are sent to detox even if they are of age and not allowed in the dorms if they have had a few to many.

For me it is real weird to think that people in college are not old enough to drink. Under the new laws I would not have been old enough until my Senior year.

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[imported_watchmanz]

Hi everyone, good to be back. Let me catch up with the comments of late. KATNZ, when I said Aucklanders were mor elike Americans than British, it referred to their lifestyles mainly - the cars, the cellphones, the whole "let's do dinner" set etc. A stereotype I realise, but I believe the majority of Aucklanders would identify more with a Big Mac than tripe and onions.
Z, I agree with you totally when you say "People should have the rights to engage in imoral activity as long as the rest of us have the right to say that it is wrong" ... that is exactly what true democracy is all about, as the judgement of morality is a personal thing.




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