The dark side of USA

[kathaksung]

61. Resignation of FBI chief

About in early April, 2000, when I was still in panic mood of Thailand event, I read a news from a Chinese newspaper that FBI director Freeh would resign from his post, because FBI abused their power to a man whom bought a house which FBI wanted. It was a strange news. I had a strong feeling the article was for me. In US, when I complained in government office, FBI could cover it up with their power. In Thailand, I complained to US Embassy, then seeking asylum. It seemed that they couldn't cover it up anymore. Someone had to take responsibility. As for the house, there were something unusually took place when I bought it in 1985. But I could never expect it would bring me such a disaster. (I would talk about it at very last in my thread) However what the newspaper said didn't come true then. Freeh still stayed at his post.

On July,2000, I went back to US. I learnt that in 1999, when I just left US, all three old people of neighborhood died. (see "10. The death of the old people". ) On July, 1999, Jr.Kennedy died in airplane's accident. They felt they were unable to control me abroad as they did in USAand feared I would reveal their criminal activities. They worried about Jr. Kennedy's political potential.

Feeling they would frame a big case to silence those whom knew my story. I started to post my experience in internet in later 2000.

On April, 2001, both directors of FBI and DEA announced resignation. Freeh left on June, two years short of his ten years tenure. I alleged they plotted a big drug case to frame me and person in the know on the month he leaving. (see 'Why DEA, FBI involved in secret deal of spy plane?' in my web-site.) It seemed they would attribute the responsibility to person whom left from his post.

After I posted my opinion that anthrax attack was done by Federal law enforcement agency, I felt strong murder threaten. I had said they probably would have done it in late January. It didn't happen, but there did be a big attack on my thread in internet. Then in early February, the chief of FBI Sacramento office said he would retire in May. They never stop persecution. Will there be another plot designed for him to take responsibility? Because once there is a responsibility taking, there would be a wrong doing. In most condition, it is killing to silence. Though under the coverage of suicide or other form they designed.

[kathaksung]

On Nov. 12, 2000, San Jose Mercury News carried such an article. Topic: " Killing Pablo" It said "Pentagon officials were concerned that US forces were possibly violating a presidential directive that prohibited American involvement in assassinations of foreign citizens. " To kill Columbia drug lord Pablo Escoba, US government spent millions in a covert operation in which a secret group assassinated about 300 people. No one was ever prosecuted. US ambassador, DEA, special force of pentagon were involved. The full extent of the US role has never been made public. Then why do they reveal this questionable maneuvers? To let people know some aspect of dark side of government? That's their taboo. Consider media are in the hold of intelligence. It's unusual.

I started to write about my experience in internet on September. I realized those Federal law enforcement agency were in panic. They couldn't wait any longer. Article "Killing Pablo" was a warning to other government department, 'you committed crime overseas, now I will commit mine, don't interfere. ' It seemed they would frame a drug case and silence those who are witness of my story. But how did they murder citizens in their own countries? Most of them are still young.

In early January, 2001, Clinton issued an order, creating a new czar with a broad mandate, namely, to identify potential security threats. It oversaw all intelligence include CIA, FBI. Freeh became the czar. Which meant FBI could carry out their plan without obstacle then. I think this 'counter intelligence' post was created for the particular purpose of this frame case. There is no news about this post ever since, and three months later, Freeh resigned from his post of FBI director.

On Jan. 21, S.J.M.N. reported "Feds widen Nuestra Familia probe", it said federal attorneys in Northern California were dramatically expanding their charge to gang members and attempting to penetrate its leadership within Pelican Bay State Prison. This may lead to the first federal death penalty trial in the Bay Area in decades. The unusual thing was why the federal government using its resources to go after a state prison gang. Local atterney puzzled, "how this became a federal issue. A prison gang is a state problem."

I could resolve this problem. It would be a murder for less penalty bargain between federal law enforcement agency and prison gang. In 'Killing Pablo', I learnt they would frame a drug case to kill many people. I also knew they used to murder people by "suicide" in jail. But they can't say all people died "suiciding", by then I realized they would kill by the hands of prison gang.

About at same time a TV news impressed me which said City of San Francisco announced that they forbid walking dog on beach to prevent they bitting people. A doubt in my mind was immediate, "Absurd rule. If people can't walk their dog on broad beach, they 'll walk dogs on crowded street. The rule creating more chance for dog to bite people." Several days later, on Jan 26, two dogs mauled a woman to death. What shocked me was not my doubt came to true, it was the background of the owner of the dogs. They were lawyers. They have an inmate as their adopt son named Schneider. Schneider was infamous among inmates and prison authority. He is serving a life sentence for stabbing a prison guard and stabbing an attorney in courtroom. He was in Pelican Bay State Prison. He is a member of Aryon brotherhood gang.

It seems they were picking up possible murderer whom fit their demand. In "Fear of frame", I expressed my worry. And in message "10. the death of old people", I expressed I feared they would kill by the hands of gang.

[imported_jutka]

The weather is really nice! Ever thought of going camping?

[kathaksung]

that's too luxurious for me.

[kathaksung]

There is another reason for them to frame the owner of the dog. Knoller and Noel are lawyers. Noel once had been a lawyer in President Nixon's Justice department. The couple then were practising their business by representing inmates and correction staff in lawsuits against the state government.

In Won Ho Lee's case, though FBI had no evidence, they still determined to frame him. Even CIA had warned FBI that Lee case was flawed. What FBI did was when they threw Won Ho Lee in prison, a news was spread that former CIA chief committed same crime as Lee, down loading classified document without permission. Were they intending to enforce law on former CIA chief? Of course not, it's same game they had played when publishing news "Killing Pablo". An intimidation of "no intrusion". Won Ho Lee could have been spent the rest of his life in jail if he had not a daughter. Lee's daughter is an undergraduate. She tried her best and found her father a good lawyer. The lawyer proved FBI agent's testimony was inaccurate and exaggerated. Lee's daughter played an important role in Lee's release, as well as a good lawyer.

In April, Freeh announced he would leave his post in June. Then they suddenly delayed McVeigh's execution date from May 11on to June 11. I alleged they planed to cover the murder by a big event which would attract public's attention.

On April 20, newspaper reported there were racist graffiti recently in Standford University against Asian. On June 10, an ethnic Chinese, 21 years old film student was shot in head and died outside a nightclub. But friends standing nearby and hundreds of bar patrons said they saw no gunman. Newspaper said, "Police described Maria Hsiao as "crystal-clear, a random victim". setting off a rare homicide investigation in a city known more for serenity and Stanford University than violence." Just like they did in other murder cases, they always pre-prepared a reasonable situation. If they are performing a fluorescent lamp killing, they have a news of "solar storm attacking earth" in advance, make death look like a stroke. If they are going to kill by EM wave, they will produce "meningitis" cases. This time, they made a background of racial random killing. Maria Hsiao, unfortunately, became a scapegoat.

My nephew, like Won Ho Lee's daughter, was an university student. He studies in Stanford University. He is the son of my youngest sister. And I talked about them in previous message, they are the target of FBI and DEA, because they are rich. Federal agents seemed considered everything in advance to make it a perfect frame case. Yet there were flaws.

[kathaksung]

64. My Brother in law was targetted.

About in 1992,(see message 6), that B's house (my youngest brother in law) was burglarized for three times within a week after I talked about isotope money. Because B is a successful business man, I think money was their target.

In early April, 2000, the house where my parents lived, were damaged in a fire. It is a house of three storeys in Taravel St of San Francisco. It was said the fire caused by a candle in top floor where a tenant lived. Though my parents lived underneath, most things were damaged not by the fire but the water pumped in by fire brigade and had to be abandoned. I think it was a search under the cover of fire or a revenge. Because it happened about two weeks after I seeking asylum in Thailand. (March 22, 2000) The house is B's property.

In April, 2001, both director of FBI and DEA announced resignation and would leave post on June. Then a news in internet drew my attention. It said US paid a large amount of ransom to China for the releasing of the crew of spy plane. FBI and DEA were signatories and guarantors agree not to use the term of Chinese Secret Police on dope traffic interdictions to Mexico, Colombia, Nigeria, and related locations and not mention Southwest China. It was a strange news, and was much more a framing drug deal than a spy plane deal. In which drugs would be smuggled from China to US and be captured, but the media would be under control so it won't hurt China's fame. I realized China was bribed to frame a drug case. It was a real good idea, the case would be believable since China was in dispute with US in spy plane accident, US law enforcement officer could do their business more relieved that they didn't plant drug, they only enforce law. B imports tens of containers of merchandise from China each year. It's easy to plant drugs in it.

The expiration date of my drive license was May 24, 2001. I received renewal notice in March. I hesitated to mail renewal form to Sacramento DMV office because many things strange happened then, such like attemption to got my signature in blank paper. Then in late April, a news said there was a malfunction in machine which issuing renewal drive license in Sacramento DMV office, sent a lot of renewal drive license to wrong addresses. I never mail the renewal form. I don't think I can get new drive license. They even made lost of drive license reasonable.

In early May, Justice department suddenly delayed McVeigh's execution date to June 11. June was the last month Freeh stayed in his post. I think they planed murder case then. And they needed a big event to transfer public's attention. I expressed my worry in internet in later may and early June. Talking about the resignation of FBI director Freeh and the delayed McVeigh's execution. On June 6, I suffered the second wave of internet censorship. At least seven web-sites I posting were attacked simultaneously.

Later I learnt from my sister she lost her tenants at same time. B runs his business in a warehouse. His neighbor was a book company. The book company not only rented the warehouse next to B, but also rented an office room inside B's warehouse, so it was B's tenant, too. There is an independent living unit in the back yard of B's living house which he rented to a single man. In may, both tenants moved away with different reason. It reminds me the event in about 1996, when G lady quit the job one month before 'operation Fire Dragon' took place. (see '32. Operation Fire Dragon') In my experience, they monitor as close as they can and avoid to be involved as possible as they can.

I do believe they planed a framing drug case in early 2001. For some reason, it soured. Because I didn' t mail the renewal form of drive license? Or I posted revelation in internet? Or some other reasons, I would never know.

Now the Chief of FBI Sacramento office will retire in May. Will there be another plot then? Probably in my sister's birthday party when so much people who know my story attending. Whatever happening, one thing is for sure that my messages in internet will be attacked too. On April 25, newspaper said, "US intelligence officials believe that the Chinese military is working to launch wide-scale cyber-attacks on American and Taiwanese computer networks....and are bracing for a possible wave of hacking attacks by Chinese students against US in coming weeks" The secret deal of last year is still effective and it's the best way to get rid of US intelligence's dislike: by the hands of foreign country so US officer take no responsibility.

[kathaksung]

65. Birthday Party on May 3 (5/10 first posted)

After the house in San Francisco was burned down, my parents moved to Shanghai, China, live with my uncle. Two months ago(Mar. 2002), the house in Shanghai was said in a development plan and would be dismantled. It motivated my sister to buy a house for them to live. Last month (April), my youngest sister (B's wife) bought a house in Shanghai, within two weeks, another sister bought one, too. I think the deal cost my sisters a lot of money.

On April 28, I learned B would have a big birthday party on May 3. It's Friday. It was unusual. My family union are used to be on Saturdays and Sundays. People won't have to be in a hurry in holiday. Friday is a day fit for plot in jail. Jail won't do any bail work on week ends. So there are two extra days for agents to do 'suicide' job there. I recalled the house deal two weeks ago. Was that a pre-set to transfer victim's would be bail money? ( I am sensitive on this because I had experience, I'll tell the story later) I called B, telling him about my worry. He said he didn't do anything illegal so what I said was impossible, he won't change his decision. He talked a lot of how grateful he was to US because his success in business. My feeling is that he didn't talk to me, he talked to agent who monitored the phone call. We are first generation immigrant. We always use our native language when we talk. This time he spoke in English. I could feel he was in terror. He thinks he is innocent, he may obey everything agent tell him to do. Yet I know a lot of people like him have been killed. What I could do was to post my worry in my thread "64. My brother in law was targeted" (first posted on April 30)

I learned the plot was postponed on May 3, the day of the party held. There was a letter from credit card company that day with a renewal card inside. My wife's Visa card expired on 04/02. So a Renewal card should have been arrived in March. But they held the card until May 3rd when they knew the plan soured.
Next day was week end, my wife would shopping with it, they couldn't hold it anymore. (See my experience of credit card at "34. The lost credit card")

I post in BBC's forum. Their format lifts the thread to top when you post a message to it. My thread failed in this function after I had about 20 messages posted. So each time I have to started a new thread for a new message. And each time I repeated:"I failed to lift "Secret police" up to top. Since the problem I posted here, such like messages missing, lagging show up of messages.... for readers who are interested in whole thread, go search "The dark side of USA" in 'goggle', or to 'guardian's 'talk', find 'Unbridle power of Federal agency' in category 'Europe and world' of 'Politics talk' "

BBC is a famous broadcast company. My commend repeated for months which might make them uneasy. So on May 1, they couldn't help to put a reply:
Quote, <"re: Secret police <http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?mid=%3C1020231436-1767.1%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&find=%3C1020231436-1767.1%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&board=greatdebate.thisisatest> Jessica W - HOST - 1 May 2002 06:37
Dear Kat Sung, I hope your cough is getting better. Thank you for alerting us to this story.
In another order of things, I hope the new message board lay-out that begins tomorrow Thursday will help us all follow threads more easily.
Thank you for your post and do keep them coming. ">

I just posted "59. Continuing cough" there. You can see the sarcasm of the Host. She might be told I would not come back after May 3. Same thing like what happened in Civilliberty.com. (see "55. Internet Censorship") Then on May 3, there was a post from another Host:

Quote, <"Messageboard relaunch problems <http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?mid=%3C1020444860-487.3%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&find=%3C1020444860-487.3%40forum0.kw.bbc.co.uk%3E&board=greatdebate.thisisatest> Alice Castle - HOST - 3 May 2002 17:54
Hi everyone - big apologies for the recent messageboard hiccups - we were meant to relaunch with a new, neater layout this week but technical problems have meant there's been a delay.
Also, you'll notice that paragraphing and character formatting are not working at the moment, and post counts are gone - again, sorry about this: things will be fixed and running as planned soon! ">

The relaunch problem will continue while I continue to post.

[imported_shewants2tango]

My gosh!!!!

This guy is still rambling about Scully and Mulder???

[imported_Jasperthecat]

those conspiracy sites can sure damage your mental health

[paka]

dunno what all the hullaballoo is all about but...just thought I'd say "hullaballoo"

hullaballoo !

*what a silly word*

[imported_shewants2tango]

I like anyword that ends in ha ha!

How about FANDANGO? I like that.

[kathaksung]

66. Turn innocent into criminal (5/20/2002)

On May 5, in World Journal's Week-ends Publish,(Chinese edition) there was an special report "Thousands eyes outside the door" which talked about Federal jail. There were six small topics in this article, four of them were story of inmates. The first one was a former Chinese Navy officer. After retirement he worked temporarily for shipping company to earn some extra money. Two years ago he was employed as chief engineer in a British ship. One day in Atlantic ocean, he found about one hundred strangers on board the ship. He asked Captain and Chief mate, they only staring at him..... then they were arrested by INS agent. He thought he was innocent because he knew nothing about conspiracy of smuggling illegal immigrant but was told if he pled guilty, he would get about 18 months jail sentence, if he trying for a jury sentence and failed, he could get 10 years. And most serious thing was that Captain and Chief mate were trying to wrong him in a plea bargain with prosecutors to be their witness. While he was hesitating, one thing changed his mind. A little smuggler was sentenced to 87 months for his disobedience in court. He thought he couldn't resist this power and gave up. He now could be released less than a year for good behavior in prison.

The second one was a landlord. He had planted some marijuana in his yard. He enjoyed it only for himself and never selling it. Once when he found neighborhood were suspicious, he destroyed the plant. So when DEA searched his house, they got nothing. Still he was arrested without any evidence. The writer asked, "In US, issuing a warrant must base on evidence.." The landlord said, "No, no evidence, only the mouth of neighborhood." He intended to go to court, but lawyer advised him better not. "Federal case is different from state's. Even they have no evidence, you can't win. You win one prosecution, they'll prosecute another.It's endless." He had to choose guilty for 3 years sentence. If he failed in court, it would be 15 years.
He said, "In jail, I saw so many cases which shakes my belief that US is a justice country." One of inmate serving 7 years because he doesn't like President Clinton and once said, "I'll get a gun to shoot Clinton." There was no action, only speech. There are 15 similar cases in whole US.

The third one was a gay. There was only one sentence about how he was put into jail. His lover put drugs at his home which was found by police after neighbor complained noise of a party. The rest whole article was about homosexual activities inside jail, miserable,aids......

The last one was a police colonel of Cambodian. He once took a tour to US. His close friend asked colonel to accompany some of his relatives with him. He promised. In custom, these relatives were arrested for forgery passport. For self protection, these illegal immigrants wronged him as smuggler. His friend cheated him.

There was also a picture in article with no story. Only said, "Reincron(pronunciation) is cleared from murder verdict after a DNA test He served 10 years in prison already." The picture shows a laughing man after release.

The whole article give people an impression that Federal jail is full of framed cases and a lot of people were wronged. Do they intend to reveal dark side of US justice? Of course not. World Journal is a popular Chinese newspaper published nation wide and read by my family members. The article might be neglected by people in normal times. But if there was a frame case took place in May 3's party, then the May 5's article would have been an advice or instruction on time to tell innocent people how to do to fit Federal agent's demand. The life in jail is miserable, to resist Federal power is hopeless, for best interest of people wronged into jail, is to cooperate with authority to be prosecutor's witness and plea guilty. That's how they turn innocent people into criminal. And they really considered everything from lawyer, bail..... to even witness. It's a big case. Once cost both directors' post of FBI and DEA, and postponed McVeigh's execution date for a month. Though the target is a little figure, he knew by his experience the high tech. weapon agent used and criminal activity of Federal law enforcement agency. And all attemption were the action of a criminal group do to a witness of their crime.

[kathaksung]

In mid-May, I clicked on to SFgate.com, a web site of San Francisco Chronicle, only found it closed its forum.
"SF Gate Conferences Closed as of 5/15: Read about it <http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2002/04/15/motet.DTL> The SF Gate Conferences have been closed. Many of the regular users have moved their disussions to Cafe Utne, which uses the same Motet format."

I went to Cafe Utne, started a new thread "My American nightmare". Today I went there to continue, but couldn't find posting window. There was no 'lock' up, no 'close for post' note. I studied the follow up, then understood it's a 'nice notice' of hidden 'close for post': ' That is very sad and it is interesting, Kat. But, I do not want to run a topic on something as specific as your own experience....".

In the alleged plot of May 3, I found they using "US intelligence officials believe that the Chinese military is working to launch wide-scale cyber-attacks on American and Taiwanese computer networks...." instead of "forbid, ban" me from the web site. And there is no trouble found except this one. Actually, they shut down a SF web site, include its archive, and nicely discontinue my thread in a replacing site. Since readers should been mainly local people, they try to hide something (my story) from them?

In May 19, 20, 21, for continual three days, SF Chronicle published a long article criticize SFPD. Topics:" SFPD dead last in solving violent crime " ,"S.F. SLAYINGS GO UNSOLVED " ,"WHERE SOLVING CRIMES TAKES TOP PRIORITY ". It said, "The San Francisco Police Department solved, on average, just 28 percent of the city's murders, rapes, robberies, shootings, stabbings and other serious assaults between 1996 and 2000. Among the 20 largest U.S. cities, only police in crime-plagued Detroit and rapidly growing Phoenix solved murders at a lower rate than the SFPD between 1996 and 2000." It published a lot of data. The data was released from FBI. The long lasting article certainly put a large pressure on SFPD. And when a news of such released, there is always a purpose. What is FBI's intention this time?

T(see #44. My Tenant, #45. Tenant) said in mid-May he found another job and might move to Oakland or San Francisco. About four days ago he said he found a room in Oakland and would move in on June. It's a one week notice.

Something seems will happen next month. When one plot was revealed and soured, there always be another. This time they turn on into local police whom are driven to raise their bad record and eagerly to solve big case if they are tipped. All this is in a hurry, (because FBI is in a hurry to be reformed?) SFgate.com closed its forum without predict in mid-May, T gave a one week notice to remove. Other pressure, such like attemption to set up illegal money, make me in a hurry too, to write this message, before I can finish another message about May 3 plot.

[kathaksung]

On May 30, A.G. Ashcroft announced he authorizing FBI to monitor the internet, political groups, libraries and religiouns organizations. All these are under the label of anti-terrorism. But I think it's an attemption to find a legal base for agents to wrong people by "investigation without evidence".

As a matter of fact, communication such like internet are under surveillance for a long time already. We know there are Carnivore, Echelon. And my message in internet which reveal the dark side of Federal law enforcement agency is the sabotage target. I alleged there was a big plot of murder and
elimination of my message in internet on June, 2001. After that plot was soured, on July, Ashcroft came to Bay area where I live announced a national cyber monitor programme. News paper title:"ASHCROFT UNVEILS PLAN TO BATTLE CYBERCRIME NINE NEW COMPUTER CRIME UNITS LOCATED AROUND THE COUNTRY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROSECUTING FEDERAL VIOLATIONS RANGING FROM HACKING TO STEALING TRADE SECRETS." The nine teams, with computer expert, are spread in US. I alleged they are doing hacking and harassment they themselves. I suffered a lot of harassment. I was banned from about more than 70 web-sites. For those active sites, readers disappeared. I think they were intimidated individually. It's a big job.

After I expressed my view of "anthrax attack", the frame attemption intensifies. Now Ashcroft even authorizes FBI agent more power which they can abuse. Perhaps for another view which I expressed on May 22. Here is an intimidation, an swift response to my thread "FBI knew terror attack in advance":

Quote, "arjurg
Senior Member
posted May 22, 2002 05:57 PM <http://www.newsmax.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=arjurg>
The FBI receives literally hundreds of 'tips' every day. I would suggest that you consider the fact that this administration is operating as if this were wartime, which it essentially is. In these times even the paranoid and conspiratorialist 'warnings' must be handled judiciously.

There is nothing untoward in John Ashcroft's using a private airplane to go on his fishing trip."


Re: 1. "FBI knew terror attack in advance"

A news in July 2001 may reveal that FBI knew the coming hijacking.

Quote, "WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001
Attorney General Ashcroft, with President Bush (AP) "There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines." FBI spokesman (CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart."

"Earlier this week, the Justice Department leased a NASA-owned G-3 Gulfstream for a 6-day trip to Western states. Such aircraft cost the government more than $1,600 an hour to fly. When asked whether Ashcroft was paying for any portion of the trips devoted to personal business, a Justice Department spokeswoman declined to respond. "

"In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term. "

Be noticed the news was on July, 2001, two months before 911. And Janet Reno, Ashcroft's predecessor as attorney general, routinely flew commercial. She didn't enjoy the special benefit of security. Can you explain why?

When FBI is accused of failure to warn the nation of 911 attack, this news revealed they did do something to deal with coming threaten already. Though only to their boss.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...in303601.shtml


Question and answer

"Maybe the threat was personal, not terror related."

Someone said this might be a personal threaten. But we know a personal threaten to celebrity is used to be assassination, such like President Kennedy's, Martin Luther King's. And a private plane is more vulnerable for a personal threaten, such like Jr. Kennedy, (died in 1999) whose political potential is a nightmare to those who assassinated his father and uncle. Carnaham, former governor of Missori, in campaign for Senator against Mr. Ashcroft,(in 2000) and a Disneyland executive, in campaign for CEO of Disney,(in 1993) were all died in accidents of private plane. Commercial flight's hijacking? In world, we know mostly done by Mid east terrorist. In US domestic flights? So far I know there was none until 911. So it goes back to the topic, how did FBI knew there would be an 'personal threaten' on commercial flights which hadn't happened before?

Re2. CBS might be punished for the news (6/10/02)

CBS published the news revealing Ashcroft travelling by charted flight in private tour. It was two months before 911 attack. FBI said it was for 'threaten assessment'. CBS might been punished for that news because it accidently revealed FBI knew hijacking would happen.

On December 2001, I had my opinion in message "My view of anthrax attack". Which talked about the first victim Bob Stevens is likely a revenge target of US celebrities more than a target of terrorist. Now it looks like CBS is the same. Though originally CBS was only pointing at corruption, FBI knew what it could really mean as it now does. CBS was a victim of anthrax attack. CBS Anchor Dan Rather's assistant tested positive of skin form of anthrax. Small trace was found in Rather's office.

See message #39 . The first victim, Bob Stevens, died on Oct. 5. He was an photo editor of Sun, a tabloid focus on scandals of celebrities such like Princess Diana's affair, Clinton and Lewinsky affair or President's drunken daughters. It seems he was much more a revenge target of some powerful celebrities then OBL and his Al -Qaida. Do you think terrorist know Bob and choose him the first target?

Re. 3. Atta was under surveillance earlier

Public know little of other 18 terrorists but Atta. He was the most familier one for people among 19 terrorists.Such like his background; his student life in Hamburg, German; "his allergy hands"; "his visiting crop dust plane"; "his visit to Czech"; and his passport was even found two blocks away from WTC after 911 attack....Newspaper called him terrorist leader as if they had taken part in the meeting. But how could they know he was the leader, not the others?

Intelligence always benefited from terrorist attack.(more police power and increased budget) In anthrax attack, they released an information that 911 terrorist leader Atta had made contact to Iraq diplomat. They discussed a plot of bombing US broadcast station. I think the release of information was on purpose that Iraq had connection to terrorist so there was excuse to extend war to Iraq. But this also meant terrorist leader Atta's talking was eavesdropped. And he was under surveillance of intelligence at least as early as this spring. Do you believe that intelligence knew nothing of 911 bombing in advance?

Re. 4. A war without evidence given

Mystery informant and evidence

If you still remember when Bush started war in Afghan, they didn't show people the evidence that OBL was behind 911. They said they had evidence, but couldn't make it public for the sake of safety of informant. Now, after eight months, where was that informant and evidence? Was he still with OBL? If so, why couldn't we capture OBL? There is another explanation, they did have evidence that OBL would attack. So there was such "threat assessment" for charted plane. And they need it like 'Perl Harbour' in WW2. They couldn't show it to people otherwise it also revealing they knew attack in advance. Perhaps that's why they want a military court. Perhaps that's why there is little news activity from Afghan. Most we got are from Army's saying. They want to bury the truth forever.

Re. 5. Culture of FBI

A lot of sources said there were more accomplices involved in OKC bombing. And after Waco event, FBI had penetrated militia organizations. Quote, "Some time prior to the bombing, the DEA planned a raid on Elohim City, from which McVeigh is alleged to have worked out his plans. but the FBI warned the DEA not to make their raid, because the FBI had “an informant in place” (http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/f...arwh080601.htm)

The motive of OKC bombing by McVeigh is to revenge government's injustice in Waco. His target was FBI and BATF in Murrah Federal Building. Yet on that day, all staffs of FBI and BATF were absent. They knew the bombing in advance. Other federal employees became scapegoat.

The content of "Patriot Act" which G.A. Ashcroft proposed after 911 attack had been proposed by FBI director Freeh after OKC bombing. Freeh failed to pass his proposal but Ashcroft succeeded. Perhaps with the help of anthrax attack. From two similar terrorist events, we can see the culture of FBI. They value their lives very much, they absented in office on OKC bombing day, they gave a 'threat assessment' for their boss before 911 attack. (fact) They tried to get more police power from the panic of terror attack (motive) and neglected public lives' loss. As a matter of fact, only the huge loss made people give away their civil right to FBI.

Re. 6. Who need this terror attack and war?

When I first published "FBI knew terror attack in advance", I got an intimidation from someone said that now it's in war times, "even the paranoid and conspiratorialist 'warnings' must be handled judiciously." That's the point. They need "war times" so they can do whatever they want to do to their dislikes. And who are benefit from this attack? President got high approve rate, intelligence got extended police power, Pentagon got a fat budget. Who are the loser? Civil liberty eroded, budget turned into deficit from surplus. And they even try to tap the social security fund which will face a financial crisis 20 years later. Yet they make this war endless. OBL is still at large. Iraq is on the waiting list. Perhaps Iran.... . Who benefit from it?

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Re 7. Padilla and OKC bombing (6/15)

On June 10, Ashcroft announced arrest of Padilla for dirty bomb plot. Then there was an interesting discovery on Padilla in internet. People found he is identical to John Doe, alleged accomplice of McVeigh in OKC bombing. . A coincidence?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/697881/posts

I then put a reply to that discovery

From another angle:

In my opinion, FBI had their informant everywhere. They penetrated militia organization and Arabs too. I think they knew OKC bombing and 911 attack in advance but didn't say it. Because they could benefit from it.