A Thoughtful 'Deliberation' on the 'Real America'

[Marmaduke]

As you good members know, the occaisional invective sometimes passes one's lips, especially in times of dire crises. In view of these difficult times, I thought I would post this thoughtful piece in full...with just the odd '*' for clarification:

F*ck the South. F*ck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.
And now what do we get? We're the f*cking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we f*cking founded this country, *******s. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bull**** about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the f*cking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were ****ing blue-staters, d!ckhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the f*cking monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get the f*ck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and ****ing Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those f*cking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for f*cking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their f*cking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this sh!t, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" d!ckheads. **** off.

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being f*cking arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the f*cking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so f*cking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your f*cking bridges, *****.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your f*cking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a f*cking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a sh!thole," we said, but you had to have your f*cking orange juice.

The next d!ckwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal f*cking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherf*cker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, @sshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, @ssholes, it’s f*cking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own f*cking stop signs, @ssholes.

Let’s talk about those values for a f*cking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you f*cking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping d!ckwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s f*cking Massachusetts, the ****ing center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the f*cking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are f*cking blue states, @sshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to f*cking guess? 10 of the top 10 are f*cking red-ass we're-so-f*cking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its f*cking part.

But two guys making out is going to f*cking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we f*cking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're f*cking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us f*cking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous @ssholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the f*cking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, @ssholes.

Well this gravy train is f*cking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bull**** and shove it up your ass.

And no, you can't have your f*cking convention in New York next time. F*ck off.

This little missive is from none other than http://www.f*uckthesouth.com. Eric Idle would be proud

[Cowshoes]

Finally!

Now that's my kind of literature.

I'm still reading "Orientalism", Jasper. Difficult, but not impossible.

[homerandjethroswede]

what? alaska and the midwest and southwest also voted for bush

[homerandjethroswede]

im swedish and cherokee indian and i think i resent that crap sort of , and yet i dont wanna live in the south much.. its too hot and i guess they suck in some ways,, some ways theyre ok though

blacks own more land in the south and southerers could be more honest in some ways

youre being simplistic

how many people here are in the usa?on this board?

[homerandjethroswede]

the civil war sucked yes

you wanna read some books read "rise and fall of the confederate govenrment" unagbriged version

i think theres more to it than people know about

or at least get a simple movie like "education of little tree"


or even "the outlaw josey wales" which is based on a civil war diary

the north invaded just like bush invaded then again clinton invaded serbia

clinton was worse i think

[sunsite]

Niquie, Have you sought your relative's military or pension records from the national records office yet. I think we talked about this a long time ago. I got my greatgrandfathers pension records which detail alot of his 4 years service in the civil war. Very intersting reading and good for following family history. Costs $35 to get a full copy of their records. they recommend the pension records rather than the military records for family history. I learned how to do it on one of the many civil war websites out there. Best to know their full name, when they served and most importantly the units they were in. I already knew his dates of service and units , so they got my records very fast for me.
sunsite

[homerandjethroswede]

oh sure
i suppose most our nordic cousins in the usa are desended from yankees

the fact remains the northern juries failed to convict the slave importers even though it was illegal to import slaves

the southern conferdate constitution outlawed further imports claiming it would be enforced.. maybe they also were liars

there were blacks that were confederate and lots of indians

ive read variuos things- what have you read?
yet i dont live in" the south" i live in wash state
and i think im sort of liberal

im against death penalty

facts are facts though

republican party was founded to stop slavery in territories like kansas
and lincoln wanted to deport the blacks and said he had no power to abolish slavery

[homerandjethroswede]

lincoln refused the prisoner of war exchanges ,, the north had food and starved prisoners,, the south tried to send them back and the north refused their own people ,, and the south lacked food

id never call myself a republican i dont think

the party of pure meanness

[homerandjethroswede]

page 262 of the unabgridged version of "rise and fall of the conferdate government" says slave imports would be made ilegal and a new york paper was quoted as saying something like "this would be a great improvement wheter their "revolution" failed or succeeded"

[homerandjethroswede]

i heard on cspan tonight or yesterday night that 35 percent of blacks in a southern state didnt want to get rid of confederate flag

[homerandjethroswede]

http://hauntedfieldsofglory.com/main.html


http://hauntedfieldsofglory.com/gall...llerymenu.html

[homerandjethroswede]

things like jefferson davis being related to pocahantus tribe powhanten and he saving the hostile apaches ,being kind even to them

the north seemed to have a penchant for persecuting their allies like i read the cherokees that were for the north in oklahoma after the war didnt do well either but were lumped in with all the rebel cherokees

ive read this hsitory and i know what im talking about ,, as to what side my ansestors were on i dont know or care maybe neutral maybe rebels, maybe yankees

[homerandjethroswede]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053259/posts

[homerandjethroswede]

the cherokees that were on different sides of this war and the other indians also i doubt if they actually hate each other in 2004 ,so the whole hate thing is silly .. get over it

and good book to read is "trail of tears " by john ehle which also talks about the civil war within the civil war the cherokees had- a fight between two factions in 1850 to 1870

[homerandjethroswede]

i just heard a thing on canadian radio about canadians who fought in usa civil war

wonder if i can find a transcript at http://www.cbc.org