Turkey needs another "ATATÜRKS" and now immediately

[politics_student]

I am last year student in the department of international relations/international politics and especially as a student the events surrounding around my country makes me very anxious.These are trial of APO,Cyprus,Iraq.I have heard that europe has declared the year 2003 as the year of "disabled people" and its said 1 among 10 people in Europe is disabled,actually there's only one people in Europe among the 10 who is really disabled and need to be cured he is 'Günther Verheugen'ihihihihihi.This man always interferes in the affairs of my country ,he clerly MENACE my country. Actually I accuse Turkish politicians for that because nobody of them come and say "SHUT UP" to this man.After the Lahey Summit as the Turkish government and Rauf Denktaþ has rejected the Annan Plan he had said "If Turkey don't solve the question of Cyprus it would be out of European Union and I cannot imagine Turkey trying to start discussions with EU membership as GRNC would be a member of it and as Turkey don't recognize GRNC'First I say 'Shut up' to Verheugen shuuuuuut upppp man and than say that the nationalist and rational Turkish Youth is not interested in the EU namely ENEMY UNÝON membership.I study ýn turkey's best university and recently some European bureacrats come to our university for a conference and what happened with them we the revolutionary Turkish Youth had kicked them out no Turkish politician was able to give them answer but we give them the answer.!!
If we come to Cyprus issue today the president of GRNC is 'Tasos Papadopulos' who was a former killer, who was a former man of EOKA.He had even participated in the killings of two Turkish villages and this man is a politician now and the GRNC nation has showed how much they liked killers with this election namely they have showed their really face.Mr. Kofi Annan was very nervous that the plan isn't accepted and they only accuse Rauf Denktaþ the Grrek side cannot be accused altough they also haven't accepted the plan because they are the valuable creatures of god.The 1963,1974 massacres of the Turks have not a sense for them and Why Turkey had intervened in the island?To save Turkish people from the killings of EOKA.They were so cruel that they have massacred a woman and her children in a bath(actually one of the children was the child of the woman and the other children were the friend of him who were invited to the Birthday ceremony)as the EOKA terrorists come the child was having a birthday party with his friend and suddenly EOKA terrorists come and mother took all the children to her arm and escaped to the bathroom Eoka terrorists masssacred them coldbloodly!and then they had flay the skin of the woman.This event happened in 1963 namely before 1974.Today this house where this woman and her children have been killed is a famous museum the blood prints in the bathroom is still lying and there are much more photos on the walls by the massacred Turkish people at that times.Ah Verheugen where are you Where are you Europe don't you know these events where is your famous human rights!!I was sitting with my room mate and heard from the radio that European Human rights court has demanded the humane trial of APO the former terrorist 'WHY DON'T U ASK THE HUMAN RÝGHTS OF THE KÝLLED 30000 ÝNNOCENT TURKÝSH,KURDÝSH PEOPLE' but this man was actually not the only killer who had killed my people EUROPE was the actor becuse terrorists were educated in Greece supported in Germany and Italy welcomed APO.Mr APO had drunk his cafe in the comfortable village in Italy.The president of that time was Massimo D'allema (we call him 'Dallama'ihihihihihihi
There's an important saying of Atatürk 'There's no one nation who can live with the plans of foreigners,history have not seen thing like that.Today unfortunately our very talent))Turkish politicians have sold the country to Europe they dictates us what to do!!ýn the name of European Union membership.Turkey isn't a European country and EU membership is the end of Turkish Republic.Where are you Turkish nation it's time to revolt who had supported APO?Who had supported fundementalism? Who was behind the killings of the democratic and nationlover thinkthanks of Turkey's like Ugur Mumcu,Ahmet Taner Kýþlalý,and recently Necip Hablemitoglu,who wants Cyprus be a Greek Island cleaned from Turks:'Certainly Europe'The country is not only in the hands of USA, its also in the hands of Europe they have just began to eat the hamburger called Turkey.Wake up Turkish nation you have demonstrated USA days and nights and why don't u demonstrate men like Gunther Verheugen.We need a ATATÜRK immediately!!who would fight against them and I am very hopeful from the new generation of Turkey!WAKE UP TURKÝSH YOUTH!! don't you remember what Ataturk has once said 'Turkish Youth is the safeguard of Turkey there would be times when the external powers would interfere in the affairs when the external powers would surround the country and at this times there would be some who would do what these external powers say but you,you won't give up and you would protect the country against these external powers you would also die in this way,The future of Turkey is in the hands of Turkish Youth'

[Aaron2]

I totally agree with your posting.
But may be it is better when you start a tread
at sweden.com because there are more users.

Oldu mu ?

Is this how this topic got started on sweden.com in the first place then?

[moods]

Mr Ferhoigen Did a very good job to Turkey . Ferhoigen made clear to Turkey that its memebrship to the EU will be very difficult as a result of Turkeys politics .Turkey is Full of Corruption and many inside problems. It has violated many international UN resolutions and obeys to aggree to many of them. Turkey even if it enter EU will disagree to obey and addopt many of the EU principles.

Turkey has been internationally accused about many genocides and many killings. They forbid to their citizens many rights !!! They do not Allow Kurds to form their own Independent state.

Ferhoigen and many others are very right . They Have been informed a lot about the PAst of Turkey !!!!

Turkey is full of Corruption and has not a demogracy!!

[moods]

If you really care about the FUTURE of your country- Nation you should fight the corruption and the dirty policies of your country about minorities in Turkey and Stop Blaiming Mr Ferhoigen and the rest of Europe about your incabability of establishing a modern democratic state.

I really appreciate Mr Ferhoigen of standing so hard against corruption . He is a very Knowledgable Man . But i find all this critcism against him rediculous. So the advice you should give to the Turkish Youth is to work hard and remove all this barriers you have with your Neigbours etc .

Well Done Mr Ferhoigen!!!!1

[politics_student]

I repeat you again as I repeated to Mr Greek in this forum: "DON"T SPEAK ABOUT A COUNTRY WHÝCH YOU HAVEN"T SEEN BEFORE" life is not like presented from your tv channels and from the mouths coming out of Mr Verheugen,in the meantime his name is Günther Verheugen not Ferhoigen!!
Look, as a young Turk I dýdn"t agree with most of the policies of Turkish government like application EU,I think Turkey is committing suicide!!!!Because EU has one aim like in Yugoslavia to partition Turkey sorry but this is the reality to divide it slow slow slower as in our country very stupid people exists!!!who cannot see this reality!!
Coming to Verheugen he has the courage to spaek like that because our stupid politicians did"t say him "SHUT UP MAN"
HAHAHA EU is a democratic union yews yes it is always supporting human rights!!!Do you know 1963-1974 assaults committed by EOKA terrorists to Turkish Cypriots.Now Greeks claim that they are so much Turks coming from Turkey WHY??Because they have killed most of the ORIGÝNAL Turks in the island or they have forced them to immigrate
Sorry but I hate alll EU governments,,,I can"t define you how a great hate I have!!Because they are always stucking their dirty noises in our affairs.
In the meantime politics is a game Mr Proud there"s no permanent friends as there are no permanent enemies don"t forget this!!!
Yes there"s corruption but this is our issue!!don"t touch.what Kurds independent stete???I think you haven"t read international law first read it about the section of self-determination principle then we can discuss may be(aaa Mr Proud you should know international law!!better than me or not??,)

[moods]

Selam , hello Mr nation ! Yasylsyn? ! I advise you also NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT A COUNTRY THAT YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE!

Personally I can not come to Turkey and see your country because of these dirty policies I have refered before.

Unfortunately you know nothing about period you have referred.

British Factor has a significant impact on the conflicts you have reffered on that period between turksihcypriots and Greekcypriots!Greekcypriots and Turksihcypriots have been working and living together like Brothers for many years in the Past. You should have known that British Forces on the island have encouraged a hostile environment between the two communities on the island because they did not want their power on the island to get diminished despite the willingness of all Cypriots for Independence. Cyprus was under British control on those days. So they had created a crisis like what they have done to Kasmir and Palestine where the crisis still continues! And thats the OUTCOME of the incidents you have referered to in your previous Posts.


If you see a turksihcypriot and a Greekcypriot you will not be able to distinguish between of them because they look the same and share same cultures!

And Please Mr nation do not pretend that you know everything ,even at International Law. I do not agree that europeans want to divide Turkey ! What for?

[politics_student]

Hello Mr.Proud I am not pretending that I know everything you are pretending that!!
I recommend u only to read international law,you know as a European citizen,u should know it very well!!Europeans always hide themselves behind it!!
Yes we have seen how brotherly they have lived(these TCs and GCs)in the period between 1963-1974!!!Today European governments want to create a new Palestine in the island and they want deceýve TCs with this EU membership and Greek part has newly declared some points for TCs.there were such clauses:TCs would be able to learn freely Greek language,they would be able to get GC passport,etc..What"s the aim of these clauses it"s very clear!!
Where you know that I speak about a country that I have never seen before??I have lived 2 years in Germany,in this time I have travelled to France,England,Belgium,Luxemburg,Austria,Holland,Greece,TRNC(a lot of times,as my brother works there)For this reason I know Europeans very well how they think how they perceive the world.
Yes in these days there are dirty policies in Turkey because an untalented man is on power.
Europe is not content to see a country which is muslim and democratic and which will progress.Europe is very jealous about that,Europe is very content that most Middle Eastern countries live under fundementalism,poverty,authoritarian rule!!THIS IS A REALITY SORRY!!Europe always have this SEVR TREATY dream and Greece always have this MEGALÝ ÝDEA dream!

[moods]

Hosgeldin again Mr Nation!

Yes you have refered to a period also where the state of Cyprus was newly established with not strong laws enforced. My self also I condemn that . This was a period of Crisis my friend and such crisis appeared in many other countries. I personally held the British Factor on the island highly responsible for the crisis that resulted on the period 1960- 1974.

I told you prior to 1960 Greekcypriots and turkishcypriots were living and working together like Brothers and there are many stories which confirm this! Greekcypriots also did mistakes nobody denies that ! But The British Factor I stated before had a great impact on these conflicts betwen the TC and GC. They have encouraged a climate of hostility and suspicion between the two comunities to ensure that their power on the island should not be diminished!

According to the new measures there are also Greekcypriots will learn the turksih language and myslef I would be happy to learn fluently the Turksih language! I have spoken recently with some Turkish and Turksih cypriots and I have mananged to learn few words! The official language of Cyprus are Greek and Turksih . Everything is written in both languages.

I also have lived in UK for 4 years and I travel all over Europe ! So I know something about Europe!

Greece is another country . And today Cyprus has nothing to do with Megali Idea !

I told you in my previous message that I have nothing against turksih people . I think they are as good as their neigbours!

[politics_student]

Durust ol!!!

[imported_Islander]

It is sad to read that Hellenics are more objective and well informed than my Turkish brothers...

Today we have an election that show the truth about North Cypriots 'realite'

Image of democracy will turn into real system...

Cypriots will live in peace in an island like heaven...