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Old 27th March 2004, 10:46
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By now we are all familiar with the fawning piece of drek that The Guardian wrote about our favorite evil Muslim cleric comparing him in some facets to Nielson Mandela and his demise at the hands of the brutish IDF.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1175854,00.html

What if they applied the same standard to Hitler. What would they have said?

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Dateline 1945

Today, Adolf Hitler, the elderly spiritual and political leader of the German people since 1933, overwhelmed by the intense pressures of the war to defend his homeland, died by his own hand rather than allow himself to be captured by ravening hordes of communist and allied troops hell-bent on killing him or subjecting him to a humiliating post-war trial.

Hitler had been suffering terribly from Parkinson’s disease and intermittent bouts of depression for some time, aggravated, no doubt, by efforts of traitorous Germans to remove him from his position as Fuehrer, and even to kill him.

Hitler had greatness and glory thrust upon him in the 1930’s as he rallied the German people to throw off the yoke of the brutally unfair Treaty of Versailles and worked tirelessly to lead Germany out of the Great Depression. Hitler’s prestige grew inexorably during the 1930’s. Even the Allied powers, his future enemies, appreciated his selfless and intense efforts to avoid war and achieve lasting peace during the negotiations at Munich in 1938. Even the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, recognized that the negotiations led by Hitler at Munich meant “Peace in our time.” It was only an isolated, discredited, bitter, bellicose, and unstable Winston Churchill, always a highly partisan critic of Hitler’s, who uncharitably characterized Munich as “a total and unmitigated defeat.” (Churchill held the prestigious position of First Lord of the Admiralty in World War I until he was discredited by the failure of his foolhardy Dardanelles invasion where the lives of many Australian troops were needlessly sacrificed. Churchill was subsequently demoted and sent the front line trenches in France.)

Domestically, Hitler was credited with rounding up many undesirables during the Night of the Long Knives, recognized for his charitable efforts in founding camps for displaced persons of Jewish origin, and hailed [heiled] for improving the literary content of German libraries. However, in spite of his best efforts, the ungrateful British never fully appreciated his accomplishments at urban renewal in the Greater London area. Hitler never withered under the glare of a publicity he could not escape. He became an accomplished speaker, hosted the 1936 Olympics with style, and endured the itnense spotlight of public adoration at Nuremburg as tens of thousands of intensely loyal Germans cheered him with salutes of Zieg Heil.

A decorated veteran of the front-line trenches on the Western Frontin World War I, Hitler is credited with returning the German military to its former glory and leading daring and brilliant military campaigns in defense of the Third Reich. He fell into misfortune when he was briefly imprisoned by shortsighted politicians in the 1920’s. However, Hitler did not allow himself to be deterred by this temporary setback. Unseen, unheard, and isolated in his prison cell, he applied himself to writing his epic work, Mein Kampf, in which he laid out his glorious vision for a new Germany and a new, united, and purified Europe.

Once released from prison, he tirelessly imbued his people with the self-evident glories of National Socialism and won a spectacular election as Chancellor in 1933. In the following years, through his unmatched charisma and foresight, he became Fuehrer of the Third Reich and led his people into a new golden age of power, prosperity, and lebensraum.

But it was the self-sacrificing zeal of his followers, enthusiastically implementing his inspired visions, that did so much to purify the Aryan blood lines and to mastermind new scientific advances ranging from the autobahn, to innovative policing methods, to advances in rocket science which may one day lead us into space, and to innovative new applications for showers and ovens.

Whether he truly intended it or not, he is likely to remain the embodiment of the German spirit and German aspirations for some time to come.

Herr Hitler’s loyal German Shepard, Blondi, and his adoring new young wife, Eva, were with him at the end, although they pre-deceased him by several minutes.

Private burial services were conducted shortly after his untimely death precipitated by the unrestrained fanatical violence employed by his enemies. In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to The Fund for the Future of National Socialism (FFNS).


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Old 27th March 2004, 13:55
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This is in bad taste, Ronbo.

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Old 28th March 2004, 23:27
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By now we are all familiar with the fawning piece of drek that The Guardian wrote about our favorite evil Muslim cleric comparing him in some facets to Nielson Mandela and his demise at the hands of the brutish IDF.


The Guardian actually wrote:

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one Arab commentator likened him to Nelson Mandela
Clearly Ronbo cannot tell the difference between a paper stating an opinion, and one quoting what a third party has said.

There is little point continuing with an analysis between what the Guardian printed and the mindless drivel above for the differences are obvious- well to all except Ronbo who prefers his ignorant propoganda to what is actually stated- a lesson you would have thought he would have learnt from the techniques of the Nazis, but clearly that is another lesson he missed or perhaps he just thinks their technique serves his own purpose better than actually critically addressing the article ?

Still, to be fair, at least he provided the link so people can read for themselves- it's only a shame he didn't do so too.
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Old 31st March 2004, 14:11
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Originally posted by Ronbo
By now we are all familiar with the fawning piece of drek that The Guardian wrote about our favorite evil Muslim cleric comparing him in some facets to Nielson Mandela and his demise at the hands of the brutish IDF.


The Guardian actually wrote:

Quote:

one Arab commentator likened him to Nelson Mandela
Clearly Ronbo cannot tell the difference between a paper stating an opinion, and one quoting what a third party has said.

There is little point continuing with an analysis between what the Guardian printed and the mindless drivel above for the differences are obvious- well to all except Ronbo who prefers his ignorant propoganda to what is actually stated- a lesson you would have thought he would have learnt from the techniques of the Nazis, but clearly that is another lesson he missed or perhaps he just thinks their technique serves his own purpose better than actually critically addressing the article ?

Still, to be fair, at least he provided the link so people can read for themselves- it's only a shame he didn't do so too.
Well you certainly put this dumb colonial in his place:-)

I suppose as a fan of that great intellectual Frank Zappa it was to be expected!:-)
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Old 9th April 2004, 18:37
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I'm surprised you've ever credited the Guardian as legitimate Ronbo (you're posts on England as terror target were from the Guardian), in England we have the accronym GROLI - Guardian Reader Of Limited Intelligence.

People do buy the Guardian, mosly pen-pushing Public Sector bureacrats or similar parasites, but they usually have to hide it inside a perverted pornography magazine in case they encounter anyone they know
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Old 24th April 2004, 19:32
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[quote]Originally posted by Shevchenko
.....in England we have the accronym GROLI - Guardian Reader Of Limited Intelligence.

Really..should renew your subscription then...looks like you need to develop some intelligence to limit.

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People do buy the Guardian, mosly pen-pushing Public Sector bureacrats or similar parasites, but they usually have to hide it inside a perverted pornography magazine in case they encounter anyone they know
Sure you can find a friend to read it to you, in that unlikely event.

Still, there is always the Tabloid fodder for people like you- that's when the permit you to have paper objects inside you zenophobic little prison.

Really, are these the best cliches you can come up with such a truly depressing lack of imagination.

That says it all really...
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Old 25th April 2004, 13:45
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Still, there is always the Tabloid fodder for people like you- that's when the permit you to have paper objects inside you zenophobic little prison.

Really, are these the best cliches you can come up with such a truly depressing lack of imagination.
Sorry Marmaduke, I prefer the foreign press on the internet.
I cannot stomach the tabloids; they are for the sort of poorly-educated individuals who cannot spell xenophobic, your or even they.

I was explaining to Ronbo, a resident of foreign climes, that those of us who reside in England, and can open a bottle of aspirins, hold the Guardian in amused contempt.

I would propose that your childish and semi-literate ranting, of the sort one usually associates with recent Guardian columnist Ron Atkinson, illustrates the kind of person most of the British Press is aimed at.

[Edited by Shevchenko on 25th April 2004 at 15:27]
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Old 9th May 2004, 22:49
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Still, there is always the Tabloid fodder for people like you- that's when the permit you to have paper objects inside you zenophobic little prison.

Really, are these the best cliches you can come up with such a truly depressing lack of imagination.
Sorry Marmaduke, I prefer the foreign press on the internet.
I cannot stomach the tabloids; they are for the sort of poorly-educated individuals who cannot spell xenophobic, your or even they.

I was explaining to Ronbo, a resident of foreign climes, that those of us who reside in England, and can open a bottle of aspirins, hold the Guardian in amused contempt.

I would propose that your childish and semi-literate ranting, of the sort one usually associates with recent Guardian columnist Ron Atkinson, illustrates the kind of person most of the British Press is aimed at.

[Edited by Shevchenko on 25th April 2004 at 15:27]
Oh dear me, what a profound person you apsire to be....

The foreign press 'on the internet' are more than capable of providing you with the sort of unchallenging fodder for someone that thinks the Guardian is a tabloid paper. It seems that simple physical evidence is insufficient to disuade you from your misguided little ideas...still..you can always share them with Ronbo- no doubt that gives you some satisfaction that you can find another with such an undeducated view as you, to protest to.

It's one better than the sort of simplistic mental masterbation that you seem to aspire to most of the time- that is when the propsect of "arousal" seems within your rather dim and simplstic remit. I guess that's why you have such a small audience for your rather derivative and third rate ideas ? Please add more, it's always amusing to watch, if seldom instructive- unless you fall into your sycophanitic little group of, well, you and Ronbo.
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Old 10th May 2004, 13:36
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Stop snivelling, and learn to spell.
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