The Christian West developed "Weapons of Mass Destruction" !!! .....

[ProudTurk]

A certain "bigoted" individual below goes on discharging the usual anti-muslim prejudicial garbage !.

The truth is that the Christian Western Europe has brought about more grief to the face of earth than all other nations combined !!!.

It was NOT the muslims who developed the A-Bomb and later dropped two of them into the city-centers of two Japanese population concentrations !!!.

It was NOT the muslims who started the WW II resulting in more deaths than all islamic countries combined previously have caused !!!.

It was NOT the muslims who have invented the "ugliest" of all "-isms" : Racism, Imperialism, Colonialism and went to distant corners of the earth to "enslave" other human beings for their own benefits !!!.

I could go on and on but lack the time !. My advice to all, particulary one bigoted individual below, is that the "crusades" are over !!!. Work toward becoming worthy human beings instead of "practicing" hypocricy !.

[imported_Barry]

Dear Proud Turk,

Why do you call the west the Christian West? There are Christians in Turkey so Turkey must be a Christian country as is Saudi Arabia. Well at least according to your definition.

I wonder what the world would be like if an Islamic country had of developed the A bomb? If the Islamic world developed it we probably wouldn't have discussion groups as humanity would be extinct. The same 'Christian' countries seem to treat people fairly well, even if they are their enemies. The Japanese have been doing well, they have enjoyed freedom of religion and prosperity. I wonder if they same could be said for Japan if it was the Islamic world which conquered it?

By the way, Muslims were heavily involved in world war I and II. It is just that they were not major powers, they fought on both sides and often against each other to try and obtain what they thought they needed. The only thing which can be said of Islamic rulers in regard to fighting is their only interest is to rule others, they cannot be trusted with real power. If Muslim nations should rise in power they will try to conquer the world. The Quran makes the promise that Islam will eventually rule the world. This is what we all have to look forward to if we do not keep them in check.

But we know what will happen with Islam. The Islamic world at some time in the near future will try to conquer Israel, it will appear as though they will succeed but suddenly all of those countries which opposed Israel will be destroyed by God himself. This is what God has decreed, as promised in the Bible.

Take heed. No one can succeed against God. Not even a Proud Turk!

Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. This is what Jesus taught and I believe it.

And by the way 'Proud Turk', over two million people have been killed by the Islamic Government in Sudan (genocide) since 1983.

And as for being ruled by foreign powers, Sudan enjoyed a longer lasting peace under British rule than it did either before or after that rule.

The truth is Muslims don't want to be treated as equals. They want to rule. They are proud of things they should be ashamed of. They like to fight and they never miss an opportunity, but God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble.

Proud Turk, be a man, humble yourself, submit yourself to God. He has revealed himself to mankind, this is the good news. He is not so heartless as you imagine him to be. Don't fear your Muslim brothers. They are just men. God loves you more than anyone in this world and nothing can stop him from loving you. No one can love like he loves because no one is as great as he is, he would sacrifice more for you than anyone who has ever lived. And he wouldn't ask you to sacrifice anything that he wouldn't sacrifice himself. He is sensitive and he never asks what he himself would not give. He has proven that he loves you, how awful for you if you should remain a slave to selfishness all because you are not willing to believe it.

[Crusader]

Dear Proud Turk,

You can not accused Christian for those disasters and destructions, be wise please ?

It's not their religion c.q Christianity that led them to war, but their states.
As you knew almost of Western states are secular, according to my opinion there are no such Christendom except Vatican!
And Vatican has no mass weapon at all!

Would you tell me about something going on in Sudan (as Barry told?), or in the war between Iraq and Iran?
If Iraqi uses chemical weapon, could you blame it as Islamic Eastern?
And how about Islamization by brute force in Maluku (eastern part of Indonesia), please tell me brother?

It is the man behind the gun did, not the gun itself
It is the person not his or her belief

May God bless you and peace always be with you

[b_engeltje]

Hey Turk

I do not believe that the Muslims even NEED the 'Western Christianity' to do anything at all, they do not even need to lift one single finger......Muslims and their fighting and murderous ways will take care of obliverating their own 'race'.

I mean, just look at what is happening in Palestinian and Arabic countries...all the wars.

You kill yourselfs....why would we have to worry