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Old 16th February 2001, 01:48
kazanova3 kazanova3 is offline
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You Were Born Without Sin

By Sahbir Ally

Would God Blame You For Someone Else's Mistake?
I am sure you must have heard it said that we were born in sin—and perhaps you even believe that. But let's think about that for a moment. Would the Just God blame you for a sin you never committed? Would He hold you responsible for what someone else did? Definitely not! God's book teaches that you are responsible for only your own actions. You cannot sin until you do something wrong. And you certainly could not have done wrong before you were even born.

Yet we often meet people who say that we are somehow born in sin. Could that possibly be true? They say that the first human being, Adam, sinned, and through him sin entered the world; and now sin corrupts everything, including every newborn baby. Can you follow that logic? Can you believe that human beings are condemned before they do anything? Which judge would condemn people for crimes they never committed? A just judge cannot do that except by mistake. But what about God? Would He make such a mistake? We cannot imagine such false ideas about God. He is Just. He holds you responsible for what you do, and He does not blame you I am sure you must have heard it said that we were born in sin—and perhaps you even believe that. But let's think about that for a moment. Would the Just God blame you for a sin you never committed? Would He hold you responsible for what someone else did? Definitely not! God's book teaches that you are responsible for only your own actions. You cannot sin until you do something wrong. And you certainly could not have done wrong before you were even born.

Yet we often meet people who say that we are somehow born in sin. Could that possibly be true? They say that the first human being, Adam, sinned, and through him sin entered the world; and now sin corrupts everything, including every newborn baby. Can you follow that logic? Can you believe that human beings are condemned before they do anything? Which judge would condemn people for crimes they never committed? A just judge cannot do that except by mistake. But what about God? Would He make such a mistake? We cannot imagine such false ideas about God. He is Just. He holds you responsible for what you do, and He does not blame you for what the first human being did.

But even after you do wrong, God is always willing to forgive. He is full of loving kindness, and He loves to forgive. He is willing to forgive anyone who turns to Him and seeks forgiveness. This means that if you did something wrong you can still turn back to God and He will forgive you, if you sincerely decide to give up that sin. Isn't this refreshing to know? Isn't it wonderful to know that even if we lived a whole life of sin but we decide now to change our lives and obey God He would forgive us this minute? And that's just between us and God. We don't need any confession box, and we don't need anyone to suffer for our sins. Can we resist the loving kindness that God is offering us?

God wants us to know about His love. He wants us to know that He is Just. He wants us to know the truth about Him so that when we turn to Him we know to Whom we are turning. But there is so much misinformation about God. Where can we get correct information about Him? In His book! That's so obvious, isn't it? God told us about Himself in His book. We owe it to ourselves to see what God has to say about Himself. Shouldn't you be reading God's book? Here's God's message to you in His book:

The Qur'an is God's final book which He revealed for the guidance of all humankind.

O mankind! Now has a proof from your Lord come unto you, and We have sent down unto you a clear light; as for those who believe in Allah and hold fast unto Him, them will He cause to enter into His mercy and grace, and will guide them unto Him by a straight road. (Qur'an 4:174-5)

The Qur'an is God's final book which He revealed for the guidance of all humankind.
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Old 1st May 2001, 20:09
Crusader Crusader is offline
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To : Kazanova3

I just wondering,

HOW could you know than man BORN without sin?
Thre's only GOD who knowest someone has a sin or not!
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The Qur'an is God's final book which He revealed for the guidance of all humankind.

I do not believe it, GOD became an author?
Maybe Thy hast a Paradise Offset or Heaven Printing Service ??
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Old 30th May 2001, 07:00
imported_TheMinister imported_TheMinister is offline
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The Sin Nature Explained.

The Quran's mishandling of the truth about sin and the sin nature is great and incrimminating. The fact of the matter is, God does not impose condemnation on anyone for the specific sins of Adam and others; the bible simply does not teach this. Nonetheless, Muslims insisantly claim the Bible teaches this "unjust condemnation", only becuse they have not the Spirit of God to apprehend the deep things of the Almighty. Muslims assemble a distorted, warped doctrine of sin and the sin nature, and then recklessly argue againt they very misunderstanding they themselve have set up. Not so fast, Christ has an answer!

Our relationship to Adam can properly be viewd as sinful, not because God holds us responsible for eating from the Tree of the knowledge of good and eviul, but because of contracted inherited genetic inpurities incurred by the very first man, Adam.

If a man contracts cancer and dies, and his grandson, but not his son, contracts the disease, one would not so foolishly accuse the grandfather of causing the illness would he? No! The grandson contracted the disease because of his RELATIOSHIP to his papa. The genetic deck was there, and it struck the grandson, not because the great-great grandfather sentenced it, but because the infection was in the gentic pool. Gotta go, be back.
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Old 11th June 2001, 22:53
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Minister,
As usual not too much sense. Genetic pool? Is 100% transmitted to 100% of the family? obviously not. Why give such an example to explain a non logic thing such as the original sin?
Fallacies and nothing but fallcies my friend! Islam is no nonsense and that is why it is the fastest growing religion in the world today.
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