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Old 25th June 2002, 17:43
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Man's Best Kept Secret: Revealed

By: Aaron Greenwich, 17, e-mail address unknown

I'm real mad. Because ever since March 3rd 1998, I've been searching for a point in my life. That day in March, I went to this party..you know, one of those parties with high power music rockin the house, plenty of booze and endless variations of drugs, and plenty of (well, to put it mildly) shameless girls and drunk boys equals? So I guess I smoked too many joints, and I ended up in the hospital for three weeks. That gave me time to think over life.

Okay, we are born, grow older, wiser, and each of us develops our own personalities for better or worse. We all try to reach the top of the world and either we do or we spend our lives trying to. Basically we live to have more, always. Don't u see? You wake up, get dressed make yourself look good, go to school come back do your homework, have some fun and to sleep. And it never changes. All right, then u graduate and go to work or raise some kids.

But it keeps repeating. U know that saying, "History repeats itself?" It does, but then we die. Now for some reason humans spend so much time pondering over every single atom on earth except death.

I know it scares them. Why wouldn't it? It happens to everyone and no one knows why. Well, MOST people don't know why. But I do. You think all those d*** cruel people who lived on this earth (I can name millions) will get away with everything they did? And those few good will go un-rewarded?

So anyway we die. We leave behind everything. EVERYTHING. You think that the Porsche u spent your whole life trying to get is going with u? The only things that're going with u are your burial clothes and coffin, if that even. And there is one other thing, but it's unseen. Your deeds. ALLLL the things u did in this life, good and bad, go with you. And so we're in the grave. What happens to you in the grave is another story but basically your body rots. I mean your "this life" body. The body that we had for (if we are lucky) 80 years is gone and with it our doings!

Alright so you're out of the picture. Gone. Then, fellow Americans, if we are not here to live life like a party....whats the point? WHY DO WE LIVE?

Why do so many people commit suicide? Because they never had the answer to the above question. Some people know. Some. And its man's best kept secret.

I know what your thinking. "Oh god he's gonna preach us on religion." Not exactly

It's a WAY OF LIFE, and what if I told u its called ISLAM? I'm Christian. But Christianty is a RELIGION not a WAY OF LIFE. 80% of Americans are "Christians", but sad to say, look at them. Homosexuality, suicide, drugs, adultery, even among their own preachers is common. I should know.

The old pastor at my church got kicked out for molesting a child. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm saying the facts. Besides that, it doesn't make sense. Neither do the other million "religions" found on this earth. They all claim to be simple religions, usually claiming belief in one god.

But they are lacking in on truth, the facts.

Alright, Aaron get on to your point. Sure. What was my 1st sentence? I'm real mad. Why? Cause everyone knows about Islam. And they ignore it, hide it. Why did I learn everything in school except Islam? From Greek God sh** to Buddha.

If u read one verse of Islam's book you will believe me. Guaranteed. Because it is the Truth. And its man's best-kept secret. They hide it because it reminds them of the TRUE PURE REAL point of life....They want us to be just like them, monsters in disgiuse, filthy, do every sin under the sun and call it a "life". I will not fall again into that trap most of us fell into. I have a life. I have Islam.

I'm sorry Jean, Dad and mostly Gramps, a pious Christian who tried to change my views. Im stepping down from my old way of life AND my old religion. I started this letter as a Christian but I end it as a Muslim.

" I bear witness that there is no God worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad is the last messenger.

Always,
Aaron
http://www.themodernreligion.com

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Old 25th June 2002, 19:04
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So what? A 17 year old drug and booze addict becomes Muslim. It only proofs he had brain damage.
Religion is an addiction, a drug. When you stop one kind, you merely start with another. No miracle in it.

The best kept secret by all religions is: there is no God.
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Old 26th June 2002, 21:06
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So what? A 17 year old drug and booze addict becomes Muslim. It only proofs he had brain damage.
Religion is an addiction, a drug. When you stop one kind, you merely start with another. No miracle in it.

The best kept secret by all religions is: there is no God.
don`t forget that he stopped all of these things ... that means that I am presenting a solution of these problems ..Islam cured many sick hearts and hopeless people ...
Rikbe, how could u say that there is no god ??? so why do we live ??? why do we die?? where are we going to after we die ??? didn`t ask ur self these quastions ??
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How many times do I have to tell you guys that religions are men made. Christianity, what is it really? Thousands of religions proclaim to be christians but they are not, it is why people get sick of religions in general and christianity, because they are all men made ans false. According to the dictionnary, to be a christian is to follow closely in the steps of Jesus Christ which we can find in the Bible. How many people do you know who are willing to live as Jesus did, even to the point of giving his life for people who were not even born yet and for people who insulted him and rejected him? Very few. Many people have good intentions, but they don't research the truth and do not investigate to find out where the truth is. The rest just want to live their lives as if it was their last day on earth and do just about anything to prove it. How sad.
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Old 27th June 2002, 03:06
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don`t forget that he stopped all of these things ... that means that I am presenting a solution of these problems ..Islam cured many sick hearts and hopeless people ...
Rikbe, how could u say that there is no god ??? so why do we live ??? why do we die?? where are we going to after we die ??? didn`t ask ur self these quastions ??
We live because we are born. We die because we stop to live. We are going nowhere after we die. It is very simple, we are just a link in the chain of evolution.
Why inventing some fairy tale to escape the inevitable?

People are so vain. They can not accept they are just animals, maybe a little more evolved (and even that I doubt when I look at the Paletinians) than other species, but still animals. Thinking that we are chosen by a God, thinking that we are created in his image, thinking that he will give us eternal life, all this is just vanity.
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Old 27th June 2002, 12:48
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Where did this damn chain came from ??? why do we think and create and the other animals don`t ??? why is there good and evil ??? right and wrong ?? why do Americans trust in God ??? aren`t they most developed civilization on the earth ?? Palestinians r defending their home lands against the strangers,the invaders, settelers or soldiers.they believe in god and Paradise ...

Panchita, I`m here talking about Islam, not christianity .....and things r very different here ...if u read the artical above u`ll know that Islam is a certain way of life which well garantee ur happiness an independance..
many of the religions were altered, this is why u r complaining...But God had decided to protect Islam _his ultimate religion_ by himself, so that,since 1400 years till now no latter has been changed in the Holy Quran .... u can ask any muslim about that .. I wish I can hear ur reply
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Old 27th June 2002, 14:11
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Where did this damn chain came from ??? why do we think and create and the other animals don't ??? why is there good and evil ??? right and wrong ??
Chain is evolution from dead matter to ... (unknown).
Are you so sure animals don't think? They are too busy to survive for creating.
There is no good or evil, no right or wrong, that is only how WE see things. What is good for one, is usually bad for another.

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why do Americans trust in God ??? aren`t they most developed civilization on the earth ?? Palestinians r defending their home lands against the strangers,the invaders, settelers or soldiers.they believe in god and Paradise ...
Billion of people believing in some delusion does not make the delusion a fact.
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Panchita, I`m here talking about Islam, not christianity .....and things r very different here ...if u read the artical above u`ll know that Islam is a certain way of life which well garantee ur happiness an independance..
Happiness for men, not for women. A divorced woman that has sex with another man than her ex husband is guilty of adultery and stoned to dead.
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many of the religions were altered, this is why u r complaining...But God had decided to protect Islam _his ultimate religion_ by himself, so that,since 1400 years till now no latter has been changed in the Holy Quran .... u can ask any muslim about that .. I wish I can hear ur reply
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Islam itself is an altering of Judaism. Inside of Islam are many different currencies and movements that fight each other.
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Chain is evolution from dead matter to ... (unknown).
Are you so sure animals don't think? They are too busy to survive for creating.
There is no good or evil, no right or wrong, that is only how WE see things.
What is good for one, is usually bad for another


How could a dead matter have the ability to live and start an evolution ??
assuming that happend,
that must be with the help of a God who can give the life to this dead matter,
by the way, that really happened but there was no evolution... there are many details about that and u can refer to : http://www.islam-qa.com to know more about the Islamic point of view about this case ...
I believe also that animals can only look after their survival, not invent or create ... even if they can, it`s stupid to compair their ability with the human abilities of creation , don`t u agree??
so, someone gave this developed abilities of creating to the humans ...
why ?? the answer is to know what is right to do, and what is wrong to avoid... whitch makes the one and his/her community better and happier
and God is the one who decides what is right or wrong , good or evil..
not humans, because God is perfect and humans aren`t
so we trust in God, and so Americans ...


Billion of people believing in some delusion does not make the delusion a fact.
But if many civilizations from different eras and areas believed in this idea, that means it is a fact ....


Happiness for men, not for women. A divorced woman that has sex with another man than her ex husband is guilty of adultery and stoned to dead.

I can tell this is wrong %100.... it is nonsense!!
death is the punishment for the one who had sex with someone other than his wife/her husband, not only the women ... a means of a great respect for the merrage and a grantee for the trust between the married couple
and the singles do not get that punishment ...
there is no differnce between men and women
your informations are wrong mister .... and believe me I won`t call upon the people to convert to this religion if it doesn`t make them happier in their lifes now in the world time, and after death and the judgment day when people are asked about their doings so the good ones go to paradise and the evil ones go to hell


Islam itself is an altering of Judaism. Inside of Islam are many different currencies and movements that fight each other.

Islam was not alterned of juadism, but it is from the same source : God
the seconed was changed by the greedness of some of the sons of Isreal, while the other was protected by God...
and the differnces between Muslims are about the very details not about the main topics such as God and the prophet

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Old 27th June 2002, 21:44
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How could a dead matter have the ability to live and start an evolution ??
assuming that happend,
that must be with the help of a God who can give the life to this dead matter,
by the way, that really happened but there was no evolution... there are many details about that and u can refer to : http://www.islam-qa.com to know more about the Islamic point of view about this case ...
Living and dead matter are build from the same atoms.
Many years ago scientist created amino acids from dead matter. Amino acids are the base stones of life.
How research has advanced since, I don't know. If I have the time I will look it up.
Cloning will bring other surprises.
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I believe also that animals can only look after their survival, not invent or create ... even if they can, it`s stupid to compair their ability with the human abilities of creation , don`t u agree??
so, someone gave this developed abilities of creating to the humans ...
Before humans became what they are, they were animals that only could look for their survival and the survival of the species.
What is needed to survive? To be the fittest. First this meant to be the strongest and fastest. Then it became more and more the survival of the smartest. Strength in a social structure of a community is less important. Some choose to be the fittest by trying to become the most powerful or richest. Some by proving they have other abilities: art.
Creativity is only an extension of the survival instinct.
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why ?? the answer is to know what is right to do, and what is wrong to avoid... whitch makes the one and his/her community better and happier
and God is the one who decides what is right or wrong , good or evil..
not humans, because God is perfect and humans aren`t
so we trust in God, and so Americans ...
The basic meaning of right and wrong is to protect 1/survival of the species. 2/survival of the individual. What is needed for these, is good, what endangers these is bad.
Man made the rules more and more complicated in answer to a more and more complicated life.
I think the Bible and Koran were initially "survival" manuals.
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But if many civilizations from different eras and areas believed in this idea, that means it is a fact ....
Belief is never a fact, even if the whole humanity believes it.
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I can tell that this is wrong %100
death is the punishment for the one that had sex with someone other than his wife/her husband, not only the women ... a means of a great respect for the merrage and a grantee for the trust between the married couple
and the singles do not get that punishment ...
there is no differnce between men and women
A few months ago, a Nigerian woman was condemned to be stoned. She was divorced but accused to have intercourse with another man than her ex hushband. Supreme court suspended it because of the storm of world wide protest. Sorry, TWO women, I just read there is a second one:
http://africa.iafrica.com/c2cnews/919067.htm
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your informations are wrong mister .... and believe me I won`t call upon the people to convert to this religion if it doesn`t make them happier in their lifes now in the world time, and after death and the judgment day when people are asked about their doings so the good ones go to paradise and the evil ones go to hell
Islam is for certain people an improvement, but that does not mean it is the best for them. In the beginning of last century, communism was a great success in Russia countries. It was an improvement compared to the life under the Tzars and Church. But now it is proven it was a complete fiasco. If hunger and ignorance would disappear, religion would also.
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Islam was not alterned of juadism, but it is from the same source : God
the seconed was changed by the greedness of some of the sons of Isreal, while the other was protected by God...
and the differnces between Muslims are about the very details not about the main topics such as God and the prophet

salam
It is for those details that thousands of people get killed.
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With doing a search on "creation of life amino acids" I got 17500 reults.
Here some of them:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank...es/do53am.html
http://web99.arc.nasa.gov/~astrochm/pr.html
http://www.parentcompany.com/creatio...ys/essay44.htm
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many points to respond for....

thanks for the sites, but I have studied amino acids well before....


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Living and dead matter are build from the same atoms.
Many years ago scientist created amino acids from dead matter. Amino acids are the base stones of life.
How research has advanced since, I don't know. If I have the time I will look it up.
Cloning will bring other surprises.



That`s right....
scientists succeed to join the atoms of hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and carbon with various amounts and forms to make 20 kinds of amino acids,
those amino acids are joined with the piptide linkage to compose the protiens
enzymes and other materials of the human body are mostly protiens
but it still a dead matter ...look at the dead human body, it is a complete composition of these matters and no one could revive it!!!
It`s not the matters which gives life, life is the spirit which god gives it to any one he wants and takes it from any one he wants ...
and this superb structrue of organic and non-organic matters _the human body_ is the bowel which holds that a spirit
and u say this complecated and well designed body was made by an accident...???
sorry, I can`t believe that !!!



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Before humans became what they are,
they were animals that only could look for their survival and the survival of the species.
What is needed to survive? To be the fittest. First this meant to be the strongest and fastest.
Then it became more and more the survival of the smartest.
Strength in a social structure of a community is less important.
Some choose to be the fittest by trying to become the most powerful or richest.
Some by proving they have other abilities: art.
Creativity is only an extension of the survival instinct.



I agree with the part of survival .... and I think that religions came to change the purpose of life for humans so to become more civilized
but I can`t agree with the word " animals " ....
may I ask for the proof ??

humans were not animals.. they were humans, started.... or created as humans
they were given the message by God...
but when they forgot it _by the work of satan_ they became animal-acting humans as god says
the important thing for humans is to survive from the hell and that what must control the human acts ...


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The basic meaning of right and wrong is to protect 1/survival of the species. 2/survival of the individual. What is needed for these, is good, what endangers these is bad.
Man made the rules more and more complicated in answer to a more and more complicated life.
I think the Bible and Koran were initially "survival" manuals



that`s the good and the right for the animals .... I don`t agree with you here ...
the good for us the humans is to obay god , and the wrong is to obay the satan
God wants us to go to paradise
Satan wants us to go to hell
that`s what Qura`n is about ... I don`t know about Bible


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Belief is never a fact, even if the whole humanity believes it.


when someone believes in something, he must have the proof that it is a fact
and I`m trying to persuade u that God is a fact, because I have the proof
the fact is there is a God
the proof is the exitance of the exitance itself !!! and the outstanding laws ruling it



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A few months ago, a Nigerian woman was condemned to be stoned. She was divorced but accused to have intercourse with another man than her ex hushband. Supreme court suspended it because of the storm of world wide protest. Sorry, TWO women, I just read there is a second one:
http://africa.iafrica.com/c2cnews/919067.htm



I told u, there is nothing like that in Islam ....
In fact, this is our problem : radicalism !!
the punishment must be done by the muslim government, not by the individuals
so is jihad...


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Islam is for certain people an improvement, but that does not mean it is the best for them.
In the beginning of last century, communism was a great success in Russia countries.
It was an improvement compared to the life under the Tzars and Church.
But now it is proven it was a complete fiasco. If hunger and ignorance would disappear, religion would also


Islam is perfect as God is perfect, u might not believe in that.... but we do...
when Islam is well understood by the people, it is for their improvment, a great improvment .... because when u defeat ur fear of death u`ll defeat every thing else, and God`ll help u,
ALSO u`ll have all the answers u demand
If it is not understood by them, other currencies`ll appear ...people will get lost again... and we r defeated .....
this scinario was repeated so many times in our history and I can mention many events about that!!!
so we work as hard as we can to remind people about the reward of paradise and the punishment of hell
so the nation gets stronger again and in the same time we call upon the world to convert to Islam to save them from the fires of the hell....
u might not believe it now .... but later u`ll remember that I said it... my duty is to deliver this message to u .....and I hope u get it


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It is for those details that thousands of people get killed.


there were no religious wars between Muslims, they were mostly political





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some refernce for Islam :
http://www.ummah.com
http://www.themodernreligion.com
http://www.islam.org
http://www.al-islam.com


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