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6th July 2002, 16:29
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Salam
The United Nation Defined terrorism and terrorist as: 1. A TERRORIST is any person who, acting independently of the specific recognition of a country, or as a single person, or as part of a group not recognized as an official part of division of a nation, acts to destroy or to injure civilians or destroy or damage property belonging to civilians or to governments in order to effect some political goal. 2. TERRORISM is the act of destroying or injuring civilian lives or the act of destroying or damaging civilian or government property without the expressly chartered permission of a specific government,thus, by individuals or groups acting independently or governments on their own accord and belief, in the attempt to effect some political goal. 3. All war crimes will be considered acts of terrorism. 4. Attacks on military installations, bases, and personnel will not be considered acts of terrorism, but instead acts by freedom fighters that are to be considered a declaration of war towards the organized government. But the Israeli - American definition is quite different.... HOW ??? ......... SEE THEN :  Good Israeli soldiers arresting Bad Palestinian Terrorist (Palestine-Gazza Stripe-1997)  He was shot by Israeli soldiers in demonstrations (Palestine -West Bank-1998)  Dangerous terrorist using his weapon... (To us he is a Freedom Fighter throwing a stone for his freedom) (Palestine-Hebron-1997)  Breaking news: A Palestinian terrorist stabbed an innocent Israeli civilian... the photo above shows the innocent Israeli civilian!! (Palestine -Jeursalim-1998)  Arresting and Humiliating of a child ( Palestine - Jerusalem - 1995)  They killed his mother in front of him cause she was a terrorist..! (Palestine -West bank - 1997)  "KILL ALL ARABS" .. An explicit racism (Palestine - Jerusalem - 1999) SORRY for the HEART BREAKING PICS ..... BUT ITS THE TRUTH PEACE
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6th July 2002, 16:45
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We also CONDEMN the attacks against the INNOCENT Israeli civilins ... and that if there were any innocent civilians in Isreal !!!
there is something most of the people don`t know : that most settlers are armed and useing violence against Plaestinan civilians .... shall those people get the fair punishment of God ... Thanks .... salam
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6th July 2002, 17:54
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SOF,
Thaks for the pictures, as usual they say not much, except this one: It shows how Palestinian children are educated in hatred and violence towards non Muslims. It shows what the civilized world is up to: primitive hatred of primitive people with a primitive religion. Truth, You claim to be solidair with all Muslims all over the world. What about the ALgerians? 100 000 have been murdered by terrorists the past 10 years, yet no Musllims ever mentions this on this board. Why? Why don't you show us some pictures of Muslims killed by Muslims? http://www.oneworld.org/news/reports98/algeria.html
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6th July 2002, 19:08
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Yes I do ... Quote:
u don`t know that we condemned terrorism befor 9/11 ... do u ?? the terrorism is our enemy before it`s yours .... Quote:
I told u ... terrorists has nothing to do with Islam .. and THIS is an enteral problem that WE handle ...and the foreigners has nothing to do with it .... I`m here because I have a problem with U ... And the problem that I have with my muslim brother I`ll talk about it with him ... and if he needs help I`ll offer him my help all the muslim states offered help and aids to Algeria ... salam ...
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6th July 2002, 19:48
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But your way to handle the problem does not prevent these terrorists to attack other countries and civilians of other countries. That makes it our business. Terrorists are a minority but can only operate with the complicity of the majority of population or/and with the complicity of some governments. An example: I read that Saudi Arabia and Iraq reward the parents of suicide killers with 25000 $ and a free travel to Mecca for the whole family. Isn't that encouraging other parents to push their children to do the same? In fact to sell the life of their children? Isn't that financing terrorism? ANother example: in belgium, fundamentalists manipulate Muslim children with the complicity of Musliim schools. This was admitted by the Islamic councel of Belgium, AFTER the State Security denounced it. Aren't they responsible with their silence and passivity?
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6th July 2002, 22:51
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Rikbe there is no need for a parents to hate the invaders ... ok now lets talk clearlly ...... where do u live ???? im sure u r living in BGM or in USA but im living there .... im living in the battle field ... only a few miles from there ... but there is thousands an thousands of miles between u and us ur only source to hear about this thing is media and u know .. media couldnt be honest all the times ... but i see these things in my eyes .... ok ill ask this question but plz answer honestly : if some one ( however is his religion or nationality ) killed ur father or ur mother or ur brother . will u love him ?? u will told me that the palestinians are killing the jews also .... but remmember ... the palestiniaians dont have any F16's or tanks ... they only have their body's to bomb it coz they are upset ... please read my words carefully and remmember that we are humans like u .... and we dont like to kill but in the jungle u should kill or u will be killed PEACE
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Maybe the darkness of the night has stayed too long..... But the beam of the light could reach beyond the beyond... There will be victims.... And There will be traitors.... They will be despised by all sides... But we will survive.... We Will achieve our freedom.
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7th July 2002, 01:05
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No media are never honest. I would not like someone that kills someone I love, but I do not expect to be loved if I kill someone's father, mother or brother. If you had F-16 and tanks, you would be happier? Why they are upset? Because they killed someone dear, who was killed because one of your brothers killed someone dear to them, who was killed because.... Does it ever occur to you that stop killing and start to talk would bring a solution? 55 year of violence has not brought a solution. Do you think that going on for another 55 will bring one? What I see is that when Israeli occupy the Palestinian cities, suicide killing stops and soon ad they retreat and want to talk about peace, it starts again. If you were an Israeli, what would you think? I would think that only permanent occupation would be a solution. If the Americans would not be against it, Israel would have done it a long time ago. Maybe you don't like to kill, but in your country there are people who seem to like it. Did you not create the jungle in which you live a little yourself? You want freedom? What if the PLO and Hamas and other terrorist groups would finally win? Would you be free and live in peace, or would the war go on, now between the different groups? Finally one would win and seize the power. Would you then be free or would it be some Palestinian tyrant that would oppress you? Is the people of Iraq free? Saudi Arabia? Morocco? Syria? Are they democracies? Learn from history. Each time a people revolt with arms against oppressors and destroy them, it is ruled by even worse opressors. The French revolution was followed by the reign of terror of Robespierre. The Russian revolution created Stalin. Spain was ruled by fascists after the revolution. Take a look at the African countries that became independant. How many of them are really free and prosperous after 40 years? Armed revolution always brings chaos and it is in this chaos that tyranny is born.
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7th July 2002, 01:16
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they r just like those who u say to them : use ur head .... and they use it in another way !!!  Quote:
I`ll tell u and I`ll keep telling u ...It`s ur fault, and making it ur business will only make things worse... An example : the USA troops into Iraq to save kuwait from the invation !!! later that was another reason of Bin Laden`s war against them !!! and more hate growth against America ... so if u want the peace of mind for u and for us ....THE HELL just stop supporting Isreal .... there is no other solution !!!
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7th July 2002, 13:45
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[quote]Originally posted by Truth
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When governments endangers world economy and the life of billions, they must be destroyed. When governemennts endangers world peace, they must be destroyed. If the population of these countries support these governements, it must be destroyed. More and more hate grows against Muslims, not only in America. Don't forget you are only a minority on this earth.
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7th July 2002, 18:15
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what they have said about u is right... but they acted wrongly .... we`ll help u to get rid of them .... but u`ll get no result !!! there will be another generation of them because the wrong is IN YOU ... we are 20% of the population on this planet and most of our rights were taken .... if you wont understand that ...then there is a big problem here A world peace !! under your control ??? why ?? and who dares to support the terrorists ?? you say Iraqi government ??? u were told that so u`ll agree when Iraq is hit ... Syrian ? Syria provided Infos that saved American lifes ... Saudi ?? soudia is under American control and pccupied by American troops and Iraq is used as a reason so that continues ...
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8th July 2002, 07:50
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Salam
Rikbe ill ask u one thing ... all the palestinains movements are saying the same thing : get out of the year 67 territories & we will give u peace ok !!! what about the plan of the prince abdullah ? get out of all the invaded arab lands & u will get peace from all the arabs u will tell me that even the israelies had a peace plans & they want peace ..... ok so why did they say a big NO to prince abdullah plan ???? the next day of they arab summit in beirut .... the invaded the pal's cities what im saying is that im against killing civilians from the both sides but if the peace wont work shouldnt we try another way ??!! PEACE
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Maybe the darkness of the night has stayed too long..... But the beam of the light could reach beyond the beyond... There will be victims.... And There will be traitors.... They will be despised by all sides... But we will survive.... We Will achieve our freedom.
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8th July 2002, 12:50
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[quote]Originally posted by Truth
then u will solve nothing .... u`ll only kill and get killed ... the terrorists have a just cause ... but they acted wrongly !!! They are only a few. If all are killed, there will be no retalliation. there will be another generation of them because the wrong is IN YOU ... I don't raise my children in hatred, but I teach them to defend themselves. we are 20% of the population on this planet and most of our rights were taken .... if you wont understand that ...then there is a big problem here If you are talking of Palestinians, you are only 0.001% If you are talking of Muslims, only 16% and most of them are not into terrorism bussines. They wan to live in peace. Maybe 1% is a threat. A world peace !! under your control ??? why ?? and who dares to support the terrorists ?? you say Iraqi government ??? u were told that so u`ll agree when Iraq is hit ... Syrian ? Syria provided Infos that saved American lifes ... Saudi ?? soudia is under American control and pccupied by American troops and Iraq is used as a reason so that continues ... Saudi occupied??? Where did you get that? From Bin Laden? USA has troops there with the agreemant of Saudis, they have troops in many countries of the NATO and others. That does not mean they are occupied. You are mislead by your own propaganda.
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8th July 2002, 13:03
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The 1967 territories were invaded as response to a traitorous attack from Arabs. They already retired several times but each time, bombing of Israeli civilians starts again. There is always another choice. India became free without violence. Black in USA got their civil rights without violence. If you choose violence, you will get violence in return. Don't forget they have better weapons and therefore they will win finally. There is no just cause, only a won and lost cause. I don't know the Abdullah peace proposal, if they said no, it must have been unacceptable. If Israel keeps the 1967 territories, it is for having safe borders. If they need save borders, it is because of the many attacks of the Arabs who never let a doubt about their intentions: Kill all Jews.
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9th July 2002, 18:25
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OK
What about the Syrian Golan ????? are the syrians bombing the Israeli civilians ? ok they are supporting Hizbollah but Hizbollah is not fighting the civilians they are fighting the soldiers salam
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Maybe the darkness of the night has stayed too long..... But the beam of the light could reach beyond the beyond... There will be victims.... And There will be traitors.... They will be despised by all sides... But we will survive.... We Will achieve our freedom.
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9th July 2002, 19:09
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Golan Heights: http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Peace/golan_hts.html http://www.jajz-ed.org.il/100/maps/pos.html http://www.lttn.org/R1_Article5_TruthAboutGolan.html What Jews think of CNN: http://www.yahoodi.com/cnnlies/index.html
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