belgian catholics were nazi collaborators

[KingLeopoldIV]

The data below gleaned from the web shows that the nazi-loving part of belgium is predominantly catholic. Isn't it about time that something was done about these idol-worshippers who still bow down to wooden idols?
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The Belgian parliament has just passed a "law" stating that Belgium can try people from anywhere in the world for "crimes" committed anywhere in the world.
They now intend to do so against Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, accusing him of being "responsible" when christians and Moslems killed eachother in Lebanon.

This makes Belgium the joker of the world! A country that has given the entire world nothing but lace! - a parasitical country, wants to be the world conscience?

This is the country whose King Albert surrendered to the germans in WWI, and whose pro-nazi King Leopold III surrendered again to the germans in WWII, and was a traitor to his people and was therefore kicked off his own throne by belgians after WWII.

A country with a huge amount of collaborators with the nazis!

I gathered just a few facts about the human junk that populates belgium, from the Internet.

And you human scum, nazi lovers, are going to judge other people? Very funny.

The Israeli army could probably conquer belgium in 2 days - but they wouldn't have to: by tradition of kings albert and leopold in wars WWI and WWII, belgium would surrender 1st to the Israeli Army orchestra!

Here's what you can find on the web, just search on +Belgium +nazi
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When Hitler's armies invaded Belgium on May 10, 1940, both Flemish and Wallonian fascist parties celebrated the opportunity given them to win political power, and to settle accounts with Bolshevism. The Vlaams Nationaal Verbond (Flemish National Union-VNV) paraded in Antwerp, with the slogan "Antwerp Is Ours! Jews Out". In 1941, thousands of their supporters volunteered to join Nazi armies in the war against the Soviet Union, as did supporters of Leon Degrelle's Rexist Party in Wallonia, which sought Hitler's aid in carving a "Greater Burgundy" out of Belgium and parts of France.

After Nazi Germany's defeat, 500,000 Belgians were investigated for collaboration with the Nazis, tens of thousands were jailed, fined, and lost property. 3,000 were sentenced to death, although only 242 were in the end executed. The then King, Leopold III, was forced to abdicate. The present day racist, anti-immigrant Vlaams Blok-which calls for the suppression of strikes and is currently the largest political party in Antwerp-is the political descendent of the VNV.




By Guardian Newspapers, 9/23/2002

Belgium may investigate the alleged complicity of its wartime authorities in the deportation and murder of some 25,000 Jews.

The centre-left MP Olivier Maingain has proposed a committee of inquiry in the hope that it will prompt a national debate on the issue.

Belgium's record during the second world war has long been a matter of debate. Occupied from 1940 to 1944, its king opted to stay in Belgium with most senior civil servants and police, while the government fled to London.

Many Belgians allegedly helped the Nazis identify 25,257 non-Belgian Jews for deportation; 28 convoys were dispatched to concentration camps between 1942 and 1944, and only 1,207 Jews survived. Antwerp policemen allegedly helped the Germans and an SS regiment of native Flemish reservists carry out raids and arrest Jews.










Albert I
Albert was born in Brussels in 1875, and was the nephew of King Leopold II. He bore the title Count of Flanders. Upon his uncle's death in 1909 Albert I assended the throne. He married the Duchess of Bavaria and both proved to be very popular members of the Royal Family.
During the first World War he became aware of the German invasion plans. He immediately warned France and led the Belgians in delaying actions against Germany. On July 31, 1914 he sent a personal letter to the German Kaiser Wilhelm II informing him that Belgium would remain neutral and declined to cooperate with the allies. His letter was ignored and German troops subsequently poured into Belgium.

He was succeeded by his son Leopold III.





Leopold III
The dubious and at times overtly pro-Nazi behavior of Leopold III (whose anti-parliamentary feelings were well known) during WW II brought the country on the brink of civil war on the occasion of his return, a majority of the North having voted in favor, the vast majority of the South against, his return in a referendum and openly advocating a republic. The crisis was resolved by abdication in favor of his oldest son.





King Leopold III of Belgium
(1901-1983)
It is apparent that King Leopold III, a human being with faults and failing like all of us, suffered a number of unfortunate and sad events in his life. Although he was accused of high treason by the Belgian people, he was later exonerated but, it appears, not forgiven in his lifetime. This is what I have learnt about him.
Born on the 3rd November 1901, Leopold III succeeded as King of the Belgians in 1934 following the sudden and premature death of his father, King Albert 1, in a rock climbing accident. Leopold was married to Princess Astrid of Sweden in 1926 and they had three children, Josephine-Charlotte (born 1927), Baudouin (born 1930) and Albert (born 1934). Sadly, in August 1935, Queen Astrid was killed in a car accident - Leopold was driving the car when it crashed. The Belgian people loved their beautiful Queen and blamed the King for his moment of inattention at the wheel.
In May 1940, Germany invaded Belgium without warning or ultimatum and, after the Belgian Army had suffered for 18 days, Leopold, against the advice of his cabinet, decided to surrender unconditionally to the Germans on 28th May. The French and British troops that had come to Belgium's aid initially had been overwhelmed by the superiority of the invading forces and by 26th May, the Allies were pushed into the narrow beachhead around Dunkerque. It seemed to the King that the cause was hopeless: there was no escape for his troops and he genuinely wished to spare his people further bloodshed. Indeed, the Flemish Belgians, particularly in the province of West Flanders (who were caught in the middle of the battle) were fully behind him but, unfortunately, his surrender incurred the vehement condemnation of the majority of the Belgian People and brought accusations of treason. Leopold's decision to capitulate would plague him for the rest of his life.
At the time, the Belgian government-in-exile refused to acknowledge defeat and declared the King's surrender "illegal and unconstitutional". By the 30th May, the ministers had voted to divest Leopold III of all powers and of the right to rule. Nevertheless, Leopold steadfastly refused to administer his country under German control and, as a result of his defiance, was imprisoned in his castle at Laken.
In November 1940, Leopold met Adolf Hitler in Berchtesgaden. He achieved the release of 50,000 Belgian prisoners of war and an improved food supply for occupied Belgium. However, the western Allies and many of his countrymen now regarded him as a collaborator.
In 1941, Leopold III secretly married again on 11th September. His second wife, Mary Liliane Baels, was a commoner and this was a morganatic marriage meaning that any offspring and their descendants could have no claim on the Belgian throne. The Belgian people learnt of this liaison following the civil marriage on 8th December 1941. Their reaction was anger and resentment that he had found happiness whilst they were suffering! (The press rebuked him: "Sire, we thought you had your face turned towards us in mourning. Instead you had it hidden in the shoulder of a woman."). Liliane, later created princess of R?thy, welcomed Leopold's children into her home, filling the gap left by the death of their mother, Queen Astrid. Three more children were born, a son, Alexander (1942), and two daughters, Marie-Christine (1951) and Marie-Esmeralda (1956).
After the Allied invasion in June 1944, Leopold was taken to Germany on the orders of Himmler. Followed by Princess Liliane and the royal children, the family was held in custody in a fort at Hirschstein an der Elbe in Saxony through the winter of 1944-45, and then at Strobl, near Salzburg, in Austria, before being liberated by American troops in May 1945. Much bitter opposition to his return existed in Belgium because of his wartime conduct. After the liberation of Belgium in 1944, the legislature elected Leopold's brother Prince Charles (1903-1983) as regent and Leopold and his family went into exile in Switzerland.
In 1946 a commission of inquiry exonerated Leopold of treason, but the controversy concerning his loyalty continued. A referendum held on 12th March 1950 favoured his return by an overall majority of 58% (the vote in Flanders was 77%) and he went home to Brussels on the 22nd July. However, he met such fierce hostility, manifested in strikes and other protests that, by the 1st August, he felt obliged to delegate his royal powers to his son, Crown Prince Baudouin. He finally abdicated in favour of his son on 16 July 1951, two months before Baudouin's twenty-first birthday. The childless King Baudouin I reigned until his death in 1993, when he was succeeded by his younger brother, the present King Albert II.
Ex-King Leopold III died in Brussels on 25th September 1983.
Leopold III, King of Belgium
Biography

Leopold III (1901-83), king of the Belgians (1934-51), son of King Albert I, and grandnephew of King Leopold II, born November 3, 1901, in Brussels. In 1926 he married Princess Astrid of Sweden. During World War II, when the German army invaded Belgium and France, Leopold, with the bulk of the Belgian army, was surrounded by the Germans and quickly capitulated. His surrender incurred the violent disapproval of the Belgian people and brought accusations of treason. Leopold, however, refused to administer his country under German control and was imprisoned first in his castle at Brussels and later in Germany. Despite his defiance of the Germans, the Belgian government-in-exile in London refused to recognize his right to rule.
After the liberation of Belgium in 1944, the legislature elected Leopold's brother Prince Charles as regent. Leopold later went into exile in Switzerland. In 1946 a commission of inquiry exonerated Leopold of treason, but the controversy concerning his loyalty continued. He won a referendum permitting his return, and he returned from exile on July 22, 1950. Riots soon erupted, and on August 1 he delegated his royal powers to his son Baudouin. On July 16, 1951, Leopold abdicated in favor of Baudouin. He died in Brussels, September 25, 1983.



His return to Belgium was a burning political issue. The Liberal and leftist parties accused him of cooperation with Nazi Germany and of fascist sympathies, and his main support came from the Catholic Conservatives. In 1945, Leopold was barred from returning without the permission of the parliament. He spent his exile mostly in Switzerland while his brother, Prince Charles, acted as regent. A referendum held in 1950 favored the king's return by a slight majority. However, Leopold's arrival in Belgium was followed by such unrest that he transferred the royal powers to his eldest son, Baudouin. In July, 1951, Leopold formally abdicated.




The purge of Nazi collaborators, which took place immediately after the war, belong to a depressing chapter in the history of Belgium. Some 53,000 Belgians were judged to have collaborated with the enemy.


EXTREMIST PARTIES AND HATE GROUPS
Extreme Right-Wing Political Parties
Belgium is divided into three major regions (Flanders, Wallonia and Brussels), and three linguistic communities (French, Flemish and German; Brussels is bilingual). The largest neo-fascist party in Belgium is the Vlaams Blok (VB) of Flanders, established in 1977. Since its electoral success in 1995, the VB, currently headed by Frank Vanhecke, has become one of the strongest extreme right parties in Europe (see previous reports). Its political aspiration is for a Flemish state which, after the dissolution of Belgium, would unify Belgian Flanders, French Flanders and the Netherlands. Flemish nationalism of the 1930s, Flemish collaboration with Nazi Germany, and glorification of the Vlaanderen Division of the Waffen SS, are legacies embraced by the party. One of the most fanatical defenders of these values is VB vice-president Roland Raes.
Although in 1995 VB voted for the law prohibiting denial or minimization of the Holocaust, members of the VB are known as Holocaust deniers. The party's theory of nationalism is based on the German volkisch conception. The term race flamande (Flemish race) is frequently used by VB ideologists.


The party is the ideological heir to the pre-war right-wing movement that collaborated with Nazi Germany. The VB is a populist party, advocating an independent Flemish state with Brussels as its capital, and it campaigns for a total amnesty for Nazi collaborators. Elements within the party express open admiration for the Nazi regime and a number of formal Belgian Waffen-SS members and known anti-semitic activists belong to its militant wing.


Outside the political arena, various neo-Nazi and radical right groups continue to operate in Belgium. Some, such as Thule Sodalitas, are involved in anti-Semitic activities (see below). The best organized and the most active is Voorpost (Outpost), which has strong links to the VB as well as worldwide connections with extreme right groups (see ASW 1996/7). It is known that members of outlawed militant groups, such as Vlaamse Militanten Orde (VMO), have created clandestine para-military cells. In 1997 Diksmuide, where Flemish nationalists have been meeting regularly since 1920 to honor their soldiers who fell in World War II, was again a venue for extreme rightists throughout Europe.


Belgium Bought Nazi Gold L O S A N G E L E S, Nov. 24 - Belgium, whose national treasury was looted by the Germans in World War II, was buying gold stolen by the Nazis from other countries a month before it was invaded, according to documents made public Monday.
Previously unknown documents from the Tripartite Gold Commission showed that in April 1940, a month before the Germans invaded Belgium, the then neutral nation bought 5.4 tons of gold looted by the Nazis from Austria and 1.3 tons stolen from Czechoslovakia.
The 6.7 tons would be worth about $80 million at today's prices.




World War II broke out on September 1st 1939, with the German invasion of Poland. Belgium continued to regard itself neutral. Until May 10th 1940, despite Germany and France being at war with each other, there was no fighting on the western front (the DROLE DU GUERRE, PHONEY WAR or SITZKRIEG). Then the German armies again disrespected the neutrality of their western neighbours, invading the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg and France on May 10th. On May 27th, King Leopold III., without consulting the government, requested an armistice. Belgium was occupied; the king remained in the country. Belgian representatives assembled in Limoges (France) condemn the royal action; a Belgian government-in-exile was established at Bordeaux (France, June 18th), demanding the king to abdicate. When France was occupied, Belgian political leaders (SPAAK, PIERLOT) flee to London.
King Leopold III. met Adolf Hitler in Nov. 1940 in Berchtesgaden; he achieved the release of 50,000 Belgian P.O.W.s and an improved food supply for occupied Belgium. Both the western Allies and large segments of the Belgian population regarded him a collaborator.
The German administration attempted to win followers for the new order. In addition to the king and fascist groups, politician Hendrik de Man accepted the new order and dissolved the Belgian Workers Party in June 1940. The Germans organized a Flemish and a Wallonian "legion of volunteers against Bolzhevism" to fight for Germany in the east, with little success. The plan was to 'germanize' the Wallonians, mainly through assimilation, as they were regarded "racially of Nordic stock". In fall 1940 the registration of Belgian Jews began, a first step in the Holocaust of Belgium's ca. 20.000 Jews; the deportation began in 1942. The Germans operated a concentration camp at BREENDONK, a transition camp as the inmates were to be transported to the annihilation camps in the east..

[Proud_Belgian]

What kind of a ****ing retard are you? You are blaming us for what a small part of the population did 60 YEARS AGO. What country are you from anyway? Let's see how innocent your past is.
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Get a grip, dude. Do you go to German boards to diss them because they used to be nazis? Do you go to Italian boards to diss them because they used to be fascists? Do you go to French boards to diss them because their government collaborated with the nazis in WW II? And hey, try typing in 'Belgium' and 'resistance Worldwar'. You are a ****ing disgrace for all the Belgians who died in the resistance to nazi's and who helped pick you guys up at Duinkerken. There were fascist parties in every country at that time, even in Soviet-Russia and the USA.

I am damn proud of my country. Sharon is a ****ing criminal that deserves to be in jail. A country that has given the world nothing but lace? A Belgian invented plastics. A Belgian discovered a vaccin for whooping cough. A Belgian was the first to isolate a cancer virus. A Belgian commanded the first scientific mission to Antarctica. A Belgian discovered the Big Bang- theory. A Belgian produced the first modern atlas. And I could go on and on, but the point is; you should do your research.

I love this country; it's a great privilege to be living here. But everyone has it.

[KingLeopoldIV]

this "proud belgian" (which is an oxymoron if ever i heard one, like "brave italian", is apparently a descendant of the
"proud belgian" who invented the toilet-seat. (The Americans later enhanced it by making a whole in the cemter, but that's another story).

You don't see ONE word of refutation of the many facts presented in my original post.

So "proud belgian" doesn't claim I wasn't telling the truth, he just doesn't like hearing it.

Descendants of nazis and their supporters are legal cannon-fodder, and must be harrassed everywhere, even in 3rd world
countries like belgium.

[Nousch]

Hi,

First of all I would like to tell you that your research incorrect is. During the first world war, Belgium never surrendered. NO, King Albert I stopped the Germans at the river the, Yzer,(West-Flanders) where you still can visit some parts of it (Diksmuide, Veurne, Ieper). He closed the locks leading to the see and all the water flood into the fields (From where the name in the museum in Ieper, Flanders' Fields). You can also visit lots of graves of the soldiers who fight for Belgium during those years. In that way, he could keep the Germans during 4 years out of the last part of Belgium. So Belgium never surrendered during the 1st World War.

Concerning the 2nd World War, indeed Belgium surrendered but it never has been proven that Leopold III collaborated. On the contrary, as you mentioned, Flemish people voted that he would stay king. It were, as I can remember from my history lessons, the French part of Belgium which was against the coming back of the King.

Other point, I am catholic, I am from West-Flanders and my grandparents and my great-grandmother have experienced the WWII and WWI. They never speak about it because it was very hard for them (I do know know whether you had some family who experienced WWI or WWII???) Now, I know that my great-grandmother had to flee to France (she lived in Diksmuide, near the front) during WWI. After the WWI she came back to Belgium.

Then a 25 years later, it was my grandfathers' turn. He was forced to go to work in a labour camp in Germany (we know how they were, isn't it???), but he knew it in time and could fortunately flee to France.

So you see, some people had it very hard in Belgium and I am really taking it as an offense what you are writing because I am almost at 100 % sure that you are writing from a country which was never invaded.

You also have to know that in each country which was invaded during that period there were collaborators, but there was also the resistance, but that is something that you forget to mention.

Concerning het Vlaams Blok, you have to know that lots of young people like me are against that party because it is a racist and facist party.

If Belgium has accused Ariel Sharon of War Crimes than it is with a good reason. I totally agree with it because what is done to the people of Palestina that is something that has been done to the Jews before. Palestinians are really put in a kind of country prison, they can not go out the zone without permission of Israelian soldiers, children can not go to school when they like, and so on. I really know what I am talking about because I saw some very interesting documentaries on television. It is not because Jewish people has suffered a lot during WWII that it gives them the right to treat other people like they were treated before.

Now, on the other side, the suicide attacks are not good also because you can not stop violence with violence, this has never been proven. I think that everybody has right on a part of a place where they can live peacefully.

What I suggest you to do is the following:
- go visit West-Flanders (Diksmuide, loopgraven, Veurne, Ieper)
- read more information about the history of Belgium (and other countries which were implicated in WW1 and WWII)
- read also about your own country, maybe it was in certain way also implicated in WWI and II (help to the Germans by giving them wapons or other needs????)
- look at documentaries about the Israelien - Palestinian problem
and maybe you will see that there is another version of what you read in newspapers....

[bravebelgian]

you piece a ****, who do you think you are?
i dont let an american criticise my country ( and i'll also use a latin term: america and culture is a hyperbaton)

first of all: brave belgian comes from julius caesar a roman general; he said that of all the gallic tribes the belgians are the bravest (horum omnium belgae fortissimi sunt) skip the latin cause latin is culture and you guys dont have it.

second: we proved that we still are the bravest cause we didnt allow germany to pass belgium and attack france by 2 fronts. (we could have allied us to germany) but belgium a little country stood up to germany and stopped them.

oh yeah when did the americans start to send soldiers to europe??? wasnt it something like 1917?? bit late??
and when did the italians join the allied? 1916?? when the war was almost won by the allies?


criticise belgium is lame!!!!!! and proves that you dont have any culture at all!!!!!

and dontt say that my english sucks am i 16 year old belgian! why dont you try to speak dutch,french, german or maybe latin. answer: in america there is now culture.

ps. whoever you are we will beat you in tennis!!!!

piece a ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bravebelgian]

oh yeah its really brave to attack a country which has no army at all. and why do you guys bomb the place to pieces first and then send 'brave' soldiers to it??

[bravebelgian]

oh naming belgium a 3rd world country is both offending for belgian and the 3rd world countries. America is sucking the moneyt out of those countries, amrica is the only country that didnt signt the kyoto law who could help those countires.

and the economy of flanders is better then the american, just like the education.

and how can you speak like this; 75% of the americans doesnt even have a home. that's something the papers wont tell you!