The Passion of the Christ

[theja]

"If" the Spirit is leading me to Catholicism. Wow, what a condition! For me, if the Spirit is guiding me into all truth, which is the Bible (John 16:13).

FNB, I'm aware many Catholics limit the Holy Spirit into intellectual statement, and beyond that they have no clue how He works in the heart. One can be very religious and very disciplined, and still not be in the Spirit (Galatian 5:16).

Some time ago I booked a Catholic center for overnight stay; around midnight I was attacked by the devil, but I knew how to fight back -- I rebuked the devil and used my authority in Jesus' name (Luke 10:17), and ordered the devil not to molest me for the time I was there.

People there know that this has been happening even with other guests and the residents. But the religious people there have no clue how to bind the devil and cleanse the compound of evil molestation.

To pre-empt DV from misapplying scripture on me --- the devil has no fear of an intellectual confession of Jesus (Acts 19:13-16). The spirits can recognize the Holy Spirit. Hence only a person with genuine faith in Christ and filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:8) can overcome evil spirits (Ephesians 6:10-17).

[theja]

Yes, Niquie. Because Spirit-filled Christians are a threat to the evil empire of the devil (Ephesians 2:2; 2 Corinthians 10:4-6).

[theja]

Oh, really.... hehehehe...

You said I came here with a big ego.

Could you show me what I said in my first discussion?

Niq, you're one feisty lady; but I think you need to calm down and refrain from chastising anybody you don't agree with.

[Fear_nam_Beanntan]

Originally posted by theja
For me, if the Spirit is guiding me into all truth, which is the Bible (John 16:13).

John 16:13 does not stipulate what "all truth" is. Your assertion that "all truth" refers to the Bible is an unproven assumption. I could just as easily claim that "all truth" refers to Catholicism.

Originally posted by theja
FNB, I'm aware many Catholics limit the Holy Spirit into intellectual statement, and beyond that they have no clue how He works in the heart.

No, Catholics do not limit the Holy Spirit to intellectual statements. We object to the notion that the Holy Spirit will guide every individual to the correct interpretation of the Bible. This idea is simply oppossed to empirical observation; when different people read the Bible they come up with contradictory interpretations. The Holy Spirit doesn't lead people to false conclusions, theja.

Originally posted by theja
People there know that this has been happening even with other guests and the residents. But the religious people there have no clue how to bind the devil and cleanse the compound of evil molestation.

This is not surprising. Exorcists are much fewer and farther between now than they were before Vatican II.

I'm glad your true colors have finally been revealed.
You're filled with so much unbiblical rubbish and hatred for Catholics that it's beyond anyone from any of the forums.
From what i know about you, the above quote from Scriptures (Acts 19:13-16) should be applied to yourself, theja.

[janyn2]

Originally posted by yoda123
do you know that by buying up tickets and the screenings as you evangelicals are doing, you're putting money in mel gibson's pocket? yep, right in HIS pocket since he self-financed the film. i find that the funniest thing of all...

So what if the money goes back to "HIS" pocket? He financed the project so the film could be shot, he directed the film, he used his time and effort, etc.
Where do you want Him to put the money?

By the way, the film won't be shown in Thailand because it is a Buddhist country. It won't be shown in Singapore. It won't be shown in Indonesia. It won't be shown in Malaysia. It won't be shown in Cambodia. It won't be shown in Laos...... I can make a long list for you if you want. Did he made this film for money?

Passion of Christ in Singapore:
Golden Village Cinemas:
http://www.gv.com.sg/Booking/comingsoon.htm

Need more proof?
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori.../76819/1/.html

And i will quote:

'Reverend Derek Dun, Pastor of City Harvest Church, said: "About a year ago, we heard about the release of the passion and our senior pastor who was travelling actually got to see a trailer of it, so we have been looking forward to this for a very long time."

City Harvest Church booked 26,000 tickets for its 16,000 members.

Others such as Faith Community Baptist Church are also encouraging members to watch the movie.

1,800 tickets were booked by the Catholic Church to raise funds for a Charity Gala Premiere.

And tickets costing $30 to $80 have almost sold out'.

Malaysia:

In Malaysia, there is a law that prohibits proselytizing of other religions to Muslims. The movie might be seen as one way to introduce/encourage another faith to Muslims should they be allowed to watch it.

Article 11, Clause 1, Constitution of Malaysia:

Every person has the right to profess and practice his religion and, subject to Clause (4), to propagate it.

Article 11, Clause 4, Constitution of Malaysia:

State law and in respect of the Federal Territories of Kuala Lumpur and Lubuan, federal law may control or restrict the propagation of any religious doctrine or belief among persons professing the religion of Islam.

Whether they will ban the movie in Malaysia or not, is still an undecided issue. The same with Indonesia. The 2 countries have an overwhelming majority of Muslims.
As for Laos and Thailand, heck they have both already reviewed the movie in their respective countries.
No talks of any bans yet.
I wonder where you got all this info from janyn2??

And i wonder why Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and most M.E countries are showing the movie at their theatres?


'Passion' Beats 'Return of the King' for Box-Office Record
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...1/174027.shtml

[kittyd]

[quote]Originally posted by janyn2

So what if the money goes back to "HIS" pocket? He financed the project so the film could be shot, he directed the film, he used his time and effort, etc.
Where do you want Him to put the money?

By the way, the film won't be shown in Thailand because it is a Buddhist country. It won't be shown in Singapore. It won't be shown in Indonesia. It won't be shown in Malaysia. It won't be shown in Cambodia. It won't be shown in Laos...... I can make a long list for you if you want. Did he made this film for money?

you just don't get it do you? gibson belongs to a faith that evangelical christians HATE. and the millions of dollars that movie is making for gibson is going into his pocket to help fund different projects, many of them religious, not to mention CATHOLIC. he's helped build catholic churches in california and australia and plans to expand that. that's what's so funny. you fundamentalist protestants don't know that you're helping your enemy.

and of course he made the movie for money. do you think he was making it by divine mandate? that he was altruistic in his motives? this guy works in hollywood for god's sake! he KNEW from day one, no matter that the film was in armaic and latin, that thousands upon thousands would see the film because of the subject matter and because it was "literal" to the gospels. if he was so altruistic he would have screened it for FREE for whomever wanted to see it and how many times they wanted to see it. Look at how he marketed the damn thing...

i always find it funny when you evangelicals jump on any bandwagon as long as it serves your ultimate goal of prostelyzing to all us heathens and lost souls...

[paka]

Gibson's'The Passion' a Hit Among Arabs - AP

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...MPLATE=DEFAULT

[nonchalant]

'the passion' was generally accurate to the biblical course of events with only sutble variance from my perspective. i think that we sometimes get lost in the dramatization of christ's suffering but it is a story of tremendous strength of spirit with all humanity as the beneficiary. i'd like to continue that we all have taken part in the crucifixion if you take his accomplishment as satisfying past, present, and future consequences of sin. i read in an earlier post that some feel that jesus was simply an enlightened person, but you have to accept him as god or not at all. In the gospel of john "the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" justifies the deity of christ.