Flemish/Wallon conflict

[lemaca]

Hey everyone,
I am a Belgian student in college currently studying in Florida, and I need to write a research paper on the conflict that has always existed in Belgium between Flemish and Wallons. I need info on the separatist movements etc...and opinions from Belgians on what they think about this devolutionary movement. Are there any web sites out there that could be of use to me? If anyone can help, please be free to reply me by e-mail or post a reply. Only French or English since I do not speak Flemish, thanx everyone!!!!

[speedcore]

oh nooooooo another stoopid waal

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ik zijn ne lid van de`n fok! reeding partie

totalen wereld dominatie!

[scream-x]

The best place in Belgium !

[Huyghe]

there is allways been a conflict between "la flandre" et "la wallonie". Like in the UK you have scotland and england, but maybe there the diffrences are much bigger. The differnce in Belgium between these two parts is the language. French and Dutch. Apart from that we have the same traditions and habits I think. We all have the same passport, like the same food and beer. La Wallonie is a very beautiful part of Belgium. Nature, mountain rivers, forest,... . It's a tradition in our family to go to "de Ardennen" every year. Some people want to seperate these two beautiful parts of the world, and want flanders to become 1 country. That's redicoulous, atleast, at my opinion. Unity makes force. Something a lot of people forget. A thing that bodders maybe a part of the flemisch people, is that in wallonie nowone can speak dutch. I don't see it as a big probleme, considering wa all speak english and at the bottom line it's the most important thing to understand eachother. And at the end, I think, we all get along just fine.

[imported_Shadow]

Si tu veux je pourrais te passer des infos sur ce sujet-là mais il me faudra du temps de les trouver alors laisse-moi savoir si c'est encore tourjours nécessaire, merci bien

[imported_Shadow]

Mr, Mrs Huyghe, I do agree with you that it's ridiculous to separate a country especially in the spirit of unification of the EU coming up. I believe Belgium has been messed up from the beginning all due to politics. Too many politicians brings along too many diverse ideas and created/creates confusion. I know bringing two cultures together (German and Roman) is difficult but it does lead to a stronger whole. Unfortunately no one used to see the importance of languages and as a nation we've become pretty much narrow-minded people (in my opinion!!!! shoot me!!!) because of all our little communication problems, we were too busy with our own little country, and politically fighting here and there, losing time for nothing.. Now there are even political groups that strive for a union of regions based on language only.. instead of putting a lil more effort in trying to understand one another and learning the richness of a language. English is bringing us closer together maybe but it's still sad it should be that way.

[grishnackh]

The conflict is still alive and kicking, and for the following reasons:

- Until the second world war, Belgium's official language was French, and this while 60% of the population was flemmish !, it was the war that finnaly made an end to this.

- Many do not know this, but Brussels used to be 99% flemmish, it was like Antwerp, one of the big prosperous cities of Flanders.
With the creation of Belgium, the french speaking liked the beautiful and well-settled city near the language border, and moved in on a massive scale, WITHOUT adopting its native language.
And ok, Brussels is now The European Captial, so it should be multlingual, shure, but it doesn't stop in Brussels !
They come and live in nearby Flemmish cities, and refuse to learn the language !, they open their own stores and voila, another flemmish city lost.

- The Walloons are lazy, it is actually Flanders that carries the Belgian economy, without Flanders, Wallonië wouldn't even meet the criteria to join the European Union !
So ? well, they enjoy the same social benefits the Flemmish do, which results in cash transfer of Flanders to Wallonie of 10 BILLION EURO !
That's over 1666 euro per every Flemming, i don't know the number, but i assume the working population of Flanders will be around 2.5 million, so it means we working Flemmings pay 4000 euro's EVERY YEAR for Walloons social security !!

4000 Euro !! image a taxcut of 4000 euro !!!

- And after all that, Walloon politicians still object to everything they can, and demand more and more and more.

Just know one thing, The Republic of Flanders would be the most prosperous country on the face of this planet (for real).

SO THAT's WHY THIS COUNTRY SHOULD SEPERATE !! Belgium is KILLING Flanders !

[kaygee]

Salut,

je suis Wallon et j'ai un avis très perso sur la question.

Pour moi le problème des langues ne se pose pas, les personnes sur lequelles je rejette la faute ce sont les ministres de l'éducation et tout les pseudo-politiciens.

la belgique est très complète. Mais on tourne toujours autour du pot.

Les gens on le droit de parler la langue de leur choix, ca c'est évident. Donc les formulaires et autres papiers administratifs doivent être écrit dans les trois langues nationales, mais ça, il n'y a que les idiots qui y pense.

une deuxième chose est que si on nous avais en wallonie laisser notre cours de langues, il est probable que tout le monde se comprendrais mieux aujourd'hui. C'est une langue beaucoups plus facile à étudier lorsque l'on s'y prend au plus tot.

J'ai suivi des études en Arts appliqué. On nous a rabaché les oreilles en nous disant que dans le monde artistique, il n'y avais pas besoin d'apprendre les langues et donc on nous a supprimé le néerlandais.

je suis maintenant infographiste, et si je ne parel pas le néerlandais, je suis à tout les coups éliminé d'office.

Alors pourquoi supprimer la deuxième langue en secondaire???

Il y en a qui feraient mieux de regarder avant de tenir des propos stupides.

Enfin c'est mon avis